Workers' union refuses arbitration with Canada Post | CTV News

well tell you what, I haven't have a raise in 3 years and I don't get a defined benefit pension either. Suck it up, no one gets that in fact, it is one of the primary reasons these pension funds are bankrupting provinces and the feds.

Did I mention I work for 'big' oil? I don't get those kind of pensions so why the fuck should you!

The best part of this is the union claiming that women in rural areas make less than men in urban areas.

What a terrible comparison. It should be compared to men in rural areas. Even if the rate it different, which is shouldn't be....

Why would the union purposely negotiate and settle on a lower rate for females and then blame CP?

I get all my packages via courier, my bills via email, and all CP delivers is flyers. At Christmas, I send postcards via CP, and that's the totality of my use for them. They made themselves irrelevant.

It's the same in the business world.

When this happened back in 2011, companies all over Canada made a huge push for email collection and started using alternative services to move packages.

This time around, it'll result in even more email collection and alternative methods.

@Caleb. Well, no, they didn't make themselves irrelevant. They got bypassed by technology - nothing really they can do about it.

Purolator is doing great, and we have small business owners complaining that other couriers cost a lot more.

Even you, it seems can't totally do without letter delivery. Other people rely much more on it, especially in rural areas, I believe.

The posties got some really great contracts in the 70's, and are fighting to hang on to them. They do need to be flexible, but on the other hand, do we want to drive another group of workers into working at minimum wage?

The posties also have put forth proposals on how CP can increase profit (because they are profitable), the way other post offices do. Banking for instance.

The US postal service delivers 6 days a week and picks up mail at the house as well as delivering. Those are very good wages for the US. If they can make a go of it, why can't we? Possibly because of our much smaller population. But in that case the govt should bite the bullet and subsidize if necessary.

lol

I love the way you make a statement, then disprove your own statement! Of course technology bypassed them, but as you state, they still have a purpose. And you'll recall, I live in a rural area. And most of what I get in my mailbox is junk. Irrelevant, things I generally just throw in the recycle bin without reading.

I only get my bills via email because, as OTI said, the last strike made it necessary to. I don't like giving out my email address, so I do it infrequently and have disposable addresses to do that.

I ordered a bunch of things from Amazon recently, and they came via 5 different couriers. If Purolator could get a clue, they might get more of my business. But as of right now, only FedEx, DHL and UPS will deliver to my door. Not even Canada Post will deliver the packages people pay them to deliver, to my door. So why should we pay for a service that is increasingly showing poorer and poorer quality?

Fuck the defined benefit pensions! Like uwish says, nobody has those! If they don't like their jobs, quit!

I tossed in an application to Canada Post a few months back when all their trucks had those big "we're hiring!" ads on the side. Never heard anything from them but I imagine I'll get a call from them soon to go be a strike-breaker. They did that to me back in the 1980's. Gave me a call one day. I went in, was "interviewed" by some nasty little manager for about two minutes, and was sent into another room to get my ID photo taken. It dawned on me that I was going to be a strike-breaker. Put the papers they wanted me to sign in the nearest trash can and walked out the door. Figured out quickly that the ten bucks an hour they were offering wasn't enough in exchange for getting my head bashed in or my car vandalized by some enraged strikers at the sorting plant.

Never figured out what the trick was to becoming a government worker. Tossed in hundreds of applications over the years and never heard fuck all back on any of them. The race part is obvious of course, in the "no white males wanted" aspect they haven't been shy in the slightest of touting for most of the last forty years. Still there has to be a way in. Must be some kind of hyper-intense buddy system, worse even than anything in the private sector, where the only avenue is to know someone already there, with extra points if they're active in the PSAC unions.

Full frontal lobotomy.

But you have to find a surgeon who will hide the scars under your hair line.

Oh, I don't care about doing a good job or anything like that and I genuinely don't give a fuck about helping the public in a service role. I seriously just want a place to park my carcass for the last few years of my obligated work years and collect a government paycheque every two weeks.

Then you are halfway there! I don't know why you weren't scooped up sooner.

Full frontal lobotomy.

But you have to find a surgeon who will hide the scars under your hair line.

Don't forget the 3 official languages, French, English and Rubbish. Rubbish being the essential requirement.

Well, there is that white skin problem I have. Which sucks because my "I truly do not give a shit anymore" attitude would help me fit right in at any of the federal, provincial, and civic levels of bureaucracy.

So tell us how rural customers work guy.
Anything you order from UPS, Fedex ends up in the local Post Office. You pay the premium delivery rate and it ends up in the same place, maybe a day earlier.
The Purolator/DHL stuff goes into the back of some Dollar Store that's only open when you're at work and staffed by min. wage teen idiots more interested in Facebook than in calling you to tell you there's a delivery.
Canada Post bought Purolator years back, and surely you're all not dumb enough to think it to steer profitable business away.
Unlike the USPS that's stepped up to the plate, Canada Post has been run by morons and foot-draggers for decades. Even heard of ePost it took so long to roll out? Where's the ePost terminals inside the Post Office for Joe Luddite? The parcel agreements with the Amazons and E-Bays to take advantage of their fancy routing and postal code system?
No shit man, every 6th item by courier went to the wrong "Fort Something" then had to come back again, including my paycheques before EFT days. Even switched to Canada Post Express for my store as it was half the price and 90% of the time the same times as Purolator. Sadly, they fucked that one up too in the last few years.
If you dimwits want to continue to blame its problems on the union, go ahead. If you look you'd see they're 99% entrenched management incompetence and political interference.

ahh unions, aren't they great!