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Atom smasher will help reveal 'the beginning'

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Atom smasher will help reveal 'the beginning'


Science | 208308 hits | Mar 30 10:42 pm | Posted by: Hyack
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GENEVA � The world's largest atom smasher threw together minuscule particles racing at unheard of speeds in conditions simulating those just after the Big Bang -- a success that kick-started a megabillion-dollar experiment that could one day explain how t

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  1. by avatar tritium
    Wed Mar 31, 2010 9:17 am
    Atom smasher will help reveal 'the beginning' and 'the end.'

  2. by avatar DrCaleb
    Wed Mar 31, 2010 3:24 pm
    "Chicken Little. Paging Chicken Little. Please pick up a white courtesy phone."

  3. by avatar PostFactum
    Wed Mar 31, 2010 3:34 pm
    It's the beginning of the End)) Here you have 2012)))

  4. by avatar Yogi
    Wed Mar 31, 2010 4:34 pm
    I kinda figured out 'my beginning. I'm much more concerned about' ending'!! 8O

  5. by avatar Zipperfish  Gold Member
    Wed Mar 31, 2010 4:52 pm
    It'll get us another trillionth of a second closer to teh Big Bang, but not back to the moment of creation/destruction. Dark matter is BS. You heard it here first.

  6. by avatar andyt
    Wed Mar 31, 2010 4:56 pm
    "Zipperfish" said
    It'll get us another trillionth of a second closer to teh Big Bang, but not back to the moment of creation/destruction. Dark matter is BS. You heard it here first.


    It's amazing what physicists will come up with to make reality fit their theories. Dark matter, dark energy (we know it's there, but we have no way of detecting it). Then there's the idea of the multiverse. In one theory, every time a subatomic particle faces a choice between two states, a new universe is created so that both states can be met. Essentially an infinite number of universes.

    Why can't they handle the truth? The universe is mental!

  7. by avatar Zipperfish  Gold Member
    Wed Mar 31, 2010 5:29 pm
    "andyt" said
    It'll get us another trillionth of a second closer to teh Big Bang, but not back to the moment of creation/destruction. Dark matter is BS. You heard it here first.


    It's amazing what physicists will come up with to make reality fit their theories. Dark matter, dark energy (we know it's there, but we have no way of detecting it). Then there's the idea of the multiverse. In one theory, every time a subatomic particle faces a choice between two states, a new universe is created so that both states can be met. Essentially an infinite number of universes.

    Why can't they handle the truth? The universe is mental!

    I think that there could be explanations besides dark matter--for instance if Newton's Gravitational Constant is not, in fact, constant.

    And, in defence of theoretical physicists, of all professions they are pretty much teh quickest at discarding one theory of reality in favour of another.

    The theory to which you refer is the Many Worlds Interpretation of quantum mechanics--when a probability wave form collapses, a new universe is created for every potential outcome.

  8. by avatar DrCaleb
    Wed Mar 31, 2010 5:49 pm
    "Zipperfish" said
    Dark matter is BS. You heard it here first.


    "andyt" said
    Dark matter, dark energy (we know it's there, but we have no way of detecting it).


    Dark matter is reality. It's pretty much a done deal. If it weren't, we wouldn't keep finding it where theory predicts we will.

    It doesn't reflect or emit radiation, but it does affect gravity. If it didn't , galaxies would spin stars out of their edges like special ed kids on a merry-go-round. So we can't see it directly, but we can measure it's effects indirectly.

    http://chandra.harvard.edu/photo/2006/1e0657/

    http://news.discovery.com/space/hubble- ... atter.html

    http://www.flickr.com/photos/nasacolab/2907661913/

    And the kicker:

    http://minnesota.publicradio.org/displa ... rk-matter/

    As for LHC - it rocks! I can't wait to see what these low power experiments reveal! Or wait for another couple years to see what happens at full power!



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