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Former premier weighs in logging plans in Clayo

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Former premier weighs in logging plans in Clayoquot Sound


Environmental | 206545 hits | Aug 02 11:04 am | Posted by: Hyack
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Environmental groups are trying to bully First Nations into abandoning their logging plans in Clayoquot Sound on the west coast of Vancouver Island, former B.C. premier Mike Harcourt says.

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  1. by Anonymous
    Sat Aug 02, 2008 7:39 pm
    I remember driving through the Claquot sound in 1993 all the VW buses made one think you had past through a time warp. How dare the BC government allow such destruction of the environment. :wink: :roll:

    seriously..I was quite astounded to see the devastation of that old growth forest with those tree trunks bigger than houses.

  2. by TattoodGirl
    Sat Aug 02, 2008 9:44 pm
    Environmental groups are trying to bully First Nations into abandoning their logging plans in Clayoquot Sound on the west coast of Vancouver Island, former B.C. premier Mike Harcourt says.


    Sure it was fine for the First Nations communities to stand with the environmentalists to protect the Clayoquot in 1993, but now that the big forestry companies are gone and they will profit, the communities flip over on their stance of the Clayoquot and level of protection. Pathetic :roll:

  3. by avatar Freakinoldguy
    Sat Aug 02, 2008 10:56 pm
    And now the truth emerges. The natives aren't really environmentalists, they're capitalists, with an agenda. One that is at total odds with the, long haired, tree hugging, vw driving, environmentalists that helped to ruin logging in BC. ROTFL



    It'll be interesting to see how long it takes the natives to scream racism if the environmentalists try and shut down their new profit making endeavor?

  4. by avatar Gunnair  Gold Member
    Sun Aug 03, 2008 4:13 pm
    "Freakinoldguy" said
    And now the truth emerges. The natives aren't really environmentalists, they're capitalists, with an agenda. One that is at total odds with the, long haired, tree hugging, vw driving, environmentalists that helped to ruin logging in BC. ROTFL



    It'll be interesting to see how long it takes the natives to scream racism if the environmentalists try and shut down their new profit making endeavor?


    You sure it wasn't the raw log exports brought about by high labour and operating costs that is helping to ruin logging in BC?

    What about pine beetle damage?

    It doesn't sound like you've spent much time in the BC forests.

  5. by TattoodGirl
    Sun Aug 03, 2008 4:23 pm
    "Gunnair" said
    And now the truth emerges. The natives aren't really environmentalists, they're capitalists, with an agenda. One that is at total odds with the, long haired, tree hugging, vw driving, environmentalists that helped to ruin logging in BC. ROTFL



    It'll be interesting to see how long it takes the natives to scream racism if the environmentalists try and shut down their new profit making endeavor?


    You sure it wasn't the raw log exports brought about by high labour and operating costs that is helping to ruin logging in BC?

    What about pine beetle damage?

    It doesn't sound like you've spent much time in the BC forests.

    I dont think alot of folks have spent anytime outside of their own doors...and when they do get to places like the Clayoquot or Cathedral Grove, they are stunned by the beauty. If it wasnt for, what they like to call tree hugger hippies, there wouldnt be such places.

    **Freakingoldguy- for the record not all that were there in 93 drove VW, nor do they now...I have a suzuki :lol: ...and its name is David :wink: :lol:

  6. by avatar Gunnair  Gold Member
    Sun Aug 03, 2008 4:27 pm
    "TattoodGirl" said
    And now the truth emerges. The natives aren't really environmentalists, they're capitalists, with an agenda. One that is at total odds with the, long haired, tree hugging, vw driving, environmentalists that helped to ruin logging in BC. ROTFL



    It'll be interesting to see how long it takes the natives to scream racism if the environmentalists try and shut down their new profit making endeavor?


    You sure it wasn't the raw log exports brought about by high labour and operating costs that is helping to ruin logging in BC?

    What about pine beetle damage?

    It doesn't sound like you've spent much time in the BC forests.

    I dont think alot of folks have spent anytime outside of their own doors...and when they do get to places like the Clayoquot or Cathedral Grove, they are stunned by the beauty. If it wasnt for, what they like to call tree hugger hippies, there wouldnt be such places

    Their loss.

    Notice how Albertan's love to wade into forestry issues with BC but get all cranky-like when anyone outside their province talks oil? :roll:

  7. by TattoodGirl
    Sun Aug 03, 2008 4:34 pm
    Their loss.

    Notice how Albertan's love to wade into forestry issues with BC but get all cranky-like when anyone outside their province talks oil? :roll:

    So true :lol:

    What i noticed this week, while i was enjoying what this province has, all the Alberta tags in the Okanagan and now that im back here...all of them in Vancouver. Its like some mass exodus to BC...what got me the most is in the Timmies parking lot in Merrit was some yokel from Alberta with a huge truck, he went into the busy (20 min lineup) Timmies and left his truck running the whole time in the parking lot :roll:
    And we are the baddies for trying to conserve what we have...pathetic

  8. by Anonymous
    Sun Aug 03, 2008 4:46 pm
    "TattoodGirl" said
    Their loss.

    Notice how Albertan's love to wade into forestry issues with BC but get all cranky-like when anyone outside their province talks oil? :roll:

    So true :lol:

    What i noticed this week, while i was enjoying what this province has, all the Alberta tags in the Okanagan and now that im back here...all of them in Vancouver. Its like some mass exodus to BC...what got me the most is in the Timmies parking lot in Merrit was some yokel from Alberta with a huge truck, he went into the busy (20 min lineup) Timmies and left his truck running the whole time in the parking lot :roll:
    And we are the baddies for trying to conserve what we have...pathetic



    actually it's just the opposite we take a beating over things like the in the global media everyday. One mention of a tree being cut in BC and out come the flaming arrows :P

    as for alberta tags in BC we're just visiting all our resort properties :P the opposite is found in Calgary as all the BCers are out here looking for work. Until recent changes in automotive insurance you could see how many young males from BC were in Calgary, they still had their BC plates years after moving here.

    My now brother inlaw had his for 3 years :lol: so did all his room mates .

  9. by avatar Gunnair  Gold Member
    Tue Aug 05, 2008 6:56 pm
    "TattoodGirl" said
    Their loss.

    Notice how Albertan's love to wade into forestry issues with BC but get all cranky-like when anyone outside their province talks oil? :roll:

    So true :lol:

    What i noticed this week, while i was enjoying what this province has, all the Alberta tags in the Okanagan and now that im back here...all of them in Vancouver. Its like some mass exodus to BC...what got me the most is in the Timmies parking lot in Merrit was some yokel from Alberta with a huge truck, he went into the busy (20 min lineup) Timmies and left his truck running the whole time in the parking lot :roll:
    And we are the baddies for trying to conserve what we have...pathetic


    Aye, and buying up all the property in the Comox Valley. Almost feel like going on a hwacker style - "We don' take kindly fo mo flattie imm'grints!" schtick! :lol:

  10. by avatar Freakinoldguy
    Wed Aug 06, 2008 3:56 am
    "Gunnair" said
    And now the truth emerges. The natives aren't really environmentalists, they're capitalists, with an agenda. One that is at total odds with the, long haired, tree hugging, vw driving, environmentalists that helped to ruin logging in BC. ROTFL



    It'll be interesting to see how long it takes the natives to scream racism if the environmentalists try and shut down their new profit making endeavor?


    You sure it wasn't the raw log exports brought about by high labour and operating costs that is helping to ruin logging in BC?

    What about pine beetle damage?

    It doesn't sound like you've spent much time in the BC forests.

    There were a number of factors involved and your points are all taken but, I said helped, I didn't say destroyed. Granted they and their public relations firms only played a small part but it was a part just the same.

  11. by avatar Freakinoldguy
    Wed Aug 06, 2008 4:23 am
    Notice how Albertan's love to wade into forestry issues with BC but get all cranky-like when anyone outside their province talks oil?


    For the record, I don't live in Alberta, I'm originally from Saskatchewan, I live in BC and i've been here since the 1960's, when logging was king.

    Although I never worked in the forest, like you and tattoo girl must have, I've watched the whole state of logging go from a major contributor to the provincial economy to a nickle and dime operation with the loss of thousands of jobs, because of poor management, poor logging practices, foreign buyouts, unforeseeable market downturns, and an infestation from insects and people.

    I live 30 minutes from cathedral grove, so while it's a beautiful place the intent was never to log it off. It was to remove some trees next to the highway for safety. As it is now it remains a hazard to traffic because of those trees and since both sides have "experts" it will remain a pristine wilderness till someone gets killed. Thats progress for you.



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