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Satellite calls yield no clues in search for missing Argentine submarine


World | 207251 hits | Nov 20 2:02 am | Posted by: Hyack
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A search and rescue operation for an Argentine navy submarine missing in the South Atlantic with 44 crew members aboard continued on Sunday, after failed satellite calls likely from the vessel raised hopes the crew are alive.

Comments

  1. by avatar BartSimpson  Gold Member
    Mon Nov 20, 2017 5:20 pm
    No small irony in that the British are helping in the search.

  2. by Sunnyways
    Mon Nov 20, 2017 11:27 pm
    "BartSimpson" said
    No small irony in that the British are helping in the search.


    35 years after a war?

  3. by avatar BartSimpson  Gold Member
    Mon Nov 20, 2017 11:46 pm
    The Argentines sometimes like to forget that the war is over. That's why I said this.

  4. by avatar Hyack
    Mon Nov 20, 2017 11:57 pm
    "Sunnyways" said
    No small irony in that the British are helping in the search.


    35 years after a war?

    I think there is still a great deal of animosity toward the British, even today due to the manner in which the Falklands war was fought and ultimately lost. Also due to the sinking of the Argentinian cruiser General Belgrano with the loss of 323 members of its crew. The Falklands War remains the only conflict in which a combatant has used a nuclear submarine, in anger, against naval targets. Now, with the British navy helping in the search for a lost Argentinian submarine I'm sure there are still a great number of people who will still hold a grudge of some sort towards the Brits.

  5. by avatar BartSimpson  Gold Member
    Tue Nov 21, 2017 12:02 am
    I'd be surprised if there aren't people in Argentina trying to blame the Brits for the sinking.

    At least it sounds better than the reality that poor maintenance is probably the culprit of the problem.

  6. by avatar fifeboy
    Tue Nov 21, 2017 2:52 am
    "BartSimpson" said
    I'd be surprised if there aren't people in Argentina trying to blame the Brits for the sinking.

    At least it sounds better than the reality that poor maintenance is probably the culprit of the problem.

    Yea , I would think airplanes and submarines would be machines one would prefer were well maintained. Hard to get out to check under the hood.

  7. by Sunnyways
    Tue Nov 21, 2017 3:48 am
    "BartSimpson" said
    The Argentines sometimes like to forget that the war is over. That's why I said this.


    There has been no suggestion that a new war would actually happen. If you're going to include all the countries Britain has territorial disputes with, that's more than Argentina e.g. Spain and Ireland for starters.

  8. by Sunnyways
    Tue Nov 21, 2017 3:55 am
    "Hyack" said
    No small irony in that the British are helping in the search.


    35 years after a war?

    I think there is still a great deal of animosity toward the British, even today due to the manner in which the Falklands war was fought and ultimately lost. Also due to the sinking of the Argentinian cruiser General Belgrano with the loss of 323 members of its crew. The Falklands War remains the only conflict in which a combatant has used a nuclear submarine, in anger, against naval targets. Now, with the British navy helping in the search for a lost Argentinian submarine I'm sure there are still a great number of people who will still hold a grudge of some sort towards the Brits.

    There are grudges after every single war on the planet - people are killed and their relatives don't forget. For both it was a war beyond the homeland and it was a small war. Argentina and Britain have many other links e.g. there are many Argentinian players in the Premiership today, including Man City's highest ever scorer, as there were in the First Division during the war (Ozzie Ardiles had a cousin who was flying the Exocets in) and that has not been a problem. Rugby and Polo are two other sports that are shared without incident. Many other international fixtures are far more fractious.

    Even at the time, there was considerable ambivalence about the war in Argentina. The writer Borges called it two bald men fighting over a comb. No democratically elected Argentinian leader would ever dare send raw conscripts in again to be killed like that on a windswept rock far away.

  9. by Sunnyways
    Tue Nov 21, 2017 4:03 am
    "BartSimpson" said
    I'd be surprised if there aren't people in Argentina trying to blame the Brits for the sinking.

    At least it sounds better than the reality that poor maintenance is probably the culprit of the problem.


    There are conspiracy loons in every country. Your own is not immune.

  10. by avatar DrCaleb
    Tue Nov 21, 2017 1:51 pm
    "fifeboy" said
    I'd be surprised if there aren't people in Argentina trying to blame the Brits for the sinking.

    At least it sounds better than the reality that poor maintenance is probably the culprit of the problem.

    Yea , I would think airplanes and submarines would be machines one would prefer were well maintained. Hard to get out to check under the hood.

    Like that time the Argentine Armada destroyer sank while it was in port . . .

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldne ... ntina.html

  11. by avatar ShepherdsDog
    Tue Nov 21, 2017 4:58 pm
    Artificial reef.

  12. by Thanos
    Tue Nov 21, 2017 5:55 pm
    The Argies seem to have shut up a lot lately ever since the Kirchner broad, a genuinely corrupt and nasty South American version of Sarah Palin if anything, got sent on her merry way. No more yammering from them over the Falklands for the last little while, which explains why they'd be accepting Royal Navy help in regards to the missing submarine instead of doing their usual stunting and strutting at the Brits.

  13. by Sunnyways
    Tue Nov 21, 2017 7:00 pm
    "Thanos" said
    The Argies seem to have shut up a lot lately ever since the Kirchner broad, a genuinely corrupt and nasty South American version of Sarah Palin if anything, got sent on her merry way. No more yammering from them over the Falklands for the last little while, which explains why they'd be accepting Royal Navy help in regards to the missing submarine instead of doing their usual stunting and strutting at the Brits.


    Countries have territorial disputes all the time all over the world with lots of yammering, stunting and strutting on both sides. There's nothing special about the Falklands in that regard, a minor conflict long ago

  14. by avatar GreenTiger
    Tue Nov 21, 2017 8:09 pm
    "BartSimpson" said
    No small irony in that the British are helping in the search.

    Wontdn't it be wonderful if they were rescued by some agency of The Falkand Island Government, it would embarrass the hell out the Argentine Navy.



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