[Newsbot]

Title: Adult sentence upheld for Stefanie Rengel's killer
Category: Law & Order
Posted By: Hyack
Date: 2010-12-15 22:55:45
Canadian

[HaRdLy]

$1:

The now 20-year-old Bagshaw pleaded guilty to first-degree murder and last year was sentenced to life in prison with no chance of parole for 10 years, the maximum for a 17-year-old offender being sentenced as an adult.

WTF is this crap? 10 years maximum because he was "tried" as an adult? Something is wrong with that picture....

[Lemmy]

HaRdLy HaRdLy:

WTF is this crap? 10 years maximum because he was "tried" as an adult? Something is wrong with that picture....

We don't try children as adults anymore.

[Unicornlord]

It would have been nice to see the father sentance this guy to the same fate as she daughters. We should have the death penalty. If you kill you are killed.... in open and closed cases there should be no other option. I feel sorry for the families involved, to bad the family did not raise thier son correctly. I hope the family sues for everything that family has or will ever have.

[Gunnair]

Unicornlord Unicornlord:

It would have been nice to see the father sentance this guy to the same fate as she daughters. We should have the death penalty. If you kill you are killed.... in open and closed cases there should be no other option. I feel sorry for the families involved, to bad the family did not raise thier son correctly. I hope the family sues for everything that family has or will ever have.

How do you know the family did not raise they boy correctly?

If anything, the guy has at least shown the ability to take responsibility for hisn actions - a rare thing to hear about these days.

[ShepherdsDog]

Lemmy Lemmy:

HaRdLy HaRdLy:

WTF is this crap? 10 years maximum because he was "tried" as an adult? Something is wrong with that picture....

We don't try children as adults anymore.

A 17 yr old is not a child, they are a young adult.

[Lemmy]

ShepherdsDog ShepherdsDog:

Lemmy Lemmy:

HaRdLy HaRdLy:

WTF is this crap? 10 years maximum because he was "tried" as an adult? Something is wrong with that picture....

We don't try children as adults anymore.

A 17 yr old is not a child, they are a young adult.

While I agree with you, the law does not. Only legal adults are tried as adults in Canada.

[Brenda]

Isn't this more than most adults get?

[Lemmy]

Not for first degree convictions. All fist degree murder convictions are life sentences. For adults, that means no chance of parole for 25 years. For young offenders, the parole time depends on age. For 16 and 17 year-olds, the maximum is 10 years before parole eligibility. For children 14-15, the maximum is life with paraole eligibility after 7 years (which was the 15 year-old girlfriend's disposition).

[Choban]

so he'll be out by 30, his whole life still ahead of him and probably a worse offender than when he went in.

[andyt]

Choban Choban:

so he'll be out by 30, his whole life still ahead of him and probably a worse offender than when he went in.

He'll be worse because prison made him worse.

[Lemmy]

It's unlikely that he'd be paroled after 10 years. He'll get day parole before full parole. It's not like he's just going to be turned loose in 10 years.

Between 1975 and 1999, there were 11,783 releases of offenders into the community on parole or statutory release who were serving sentences for murder (4,131), or manslaughter (7,752).

Of these, 37 (0.3%) were subsequently convicted for further homicide offences involving the deaths of 58 people in Canada. Thirteen of these repeat homicide offenders had originally been convicted of murder.

[andyt]

Unicornlord Unicornlord:

We should have the death penalty. If you kill you are killed.... in open and closed cases there should be no other option.

Unfortunately there are very few of those. In this case the guy confessed (tho there've been false confessions to murder before) and has shown remorse. So you would execute him, but not the contract killer where there is only circumstantial evidence? I guess you would have also fried Wayne Glowacki, who also took responsibility and made peace with the family of the girl he killed? Looks like you'd mainly be frying exactly those killers where there is some chance of rehabilitation, while passing on the stone cold ones.