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Title: Can America cope with a resurgence of tropical disease' | Ars Technica
Category: Health
Posted By: DrCaleb
Date: 2015-08-12 08:39:53

[N_Fiddledog]

That's what happens when this happens:



And Yeah...

Thanks Obama.

[DrCaleb]

Ahh, so someone rang the 'tropical disease' bell, and you immediately Pavlov the 'Brown' card.

Well done!

[BartSimpson]

DrCaleb DrCaleb:

Ahh, so someone rang the 'tropical disease' bell, and you immediately Pavlov the 'Brown' card.

Well done!

The article did that. Fiddy simply observed it.

Read carefully...

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One rainy Friday morning in March 2015, Dr. Laila Woc-Colburn saw two patients with neurocysticercosis (a parasitic infection of the brain) and one with Chagas disease, which is transmitted by insects nicknamed ‘kissing bugs.’ Having attended medical school in her native Guatemala, she was used to treating these kinds of diseases. But she was not in Guatemala anymore—this was Houston, Texas.

[N_Fiddledog]

DrCaleb DrCaleb:

Ahh, so someone rang the 'tropical disease' bell, and you immediately Pavlov the 'Brown' card.

Well done!

And the Progressive calls Racist.

Speaking of Pavlov.

It's a fact. Opening the border to hordes of Guatemalan illegals makes the above quote from Bart less of a surprise.

If the illegals in this instance happen to be brown you're the one who noticed that, not me. Racist.

[DrCaleb]

BartSimpson BartSimpson:

DrCaleb DrCaleb:

Ahh, so someone rang the 'tropical disease' bell, and you immediately Pavlov the 'Brown' card.

Well done!

The article did that. Fiddy simply observed it.

Read carefully...

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One rainy Friday morning in March 2015, Dr. Laila Woc-Colburn saw two patients with neurocysticercosis (a parasitic infection of the brain) and one with Chagas disease, which is transmitted by insects nicknamed ‘kissing bugs.’ Having attended medical school in her native Guatemala, she was used to treating these kinds of diseases. But she was not in Guatemala anymore—this was Houston, Texas.

Yes, I did read that. Saying where she got her medical training isn't racist. Mentioning patient's country of origin isn't racist. Mentioning when and where patients picked up the infection isn't racist.

The parasites for malaria and many of the diseases were already in the US south long before Europeans got here, as the article also says:

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Tropical diseases have been affecting people in the American South as long as humans have been living there.

Implying immigrants cause the disease is racist, something he went out of his way to do.

N_Fiddledog N_Fiddledog:

That's what happens when this happens:

I also note that the article says:

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Edwards’ new patient, however, had never been to Latin America. She had never even left the USA. She was, Edwards explains, “your All-American girl,” hardly a candidate for a disease that mainly infected poor, rural populations in Central and South America. Edwards repeated the blood test, just to be sure. Again it turned up positive for Chagas. Given the girl’s young age and the high risk for heart failure if the disease is untreated, Edwards decided to treat her with anti-parasitic drugs.

. . .

To Sarkar, the message was clear: the mixture of parasite-infected bugs and lots of people meant that Chagas disease was endemic in Texas. But, he says, “the response from physicians was almost complete silence because they didn’t even know this disease could be a serious issue in Texas.”

But Fiddly chose to go the 'immigrant' route, not the 'native Texan' one. I'm sorry if you can't see that his knee jerk reaction comes off as blatantly racist. I guess I'm just hypersensitive to it.

[DrCaleb]

N_Fiddledog N_Fiddledog:

DrCaleb DrCaleb:

Ahh, so someone rang the 'tropical disease' bell, and you immediately Pavlov the 'Brown' card.

Well done!

And the Progressive calls Racist.

Speaking of Pavlov.

It's a fact. Opening the border to hordes of Guatemalan illegals makes the above quote from Bart less of a surprise.

If the illegals in this instance happen to be brown you're the one who noticed that, not me. Racist.

The pictures you posted, and your above statement were specifically intended to imply that illegals cause disease. That's racist, by any definition.

In Bart's quote, how does "Dr. Laila Woc-Colburn" imply illegal Guatemalan? Or, are you going to say that all Guatemalans must be illegals?

I just call them like I see them.

[N_Fiddledog]

I don't even notice the color of people who live in places where tropical diseases are prevalent when they become illegal immigrants.

The fact they're invading becomes the priority.

It's you who's been brain-trained to come running when you hear the race-baiter's dog whistle.

I will rise to the call of invaders breaking laws though. You'll hear from me if it's a Chechyan, Romano, or Irish traveller too.

As to you and your obsession with color...Racist.

[DrCaleb]

N_Fiddledog N_Fiddledog:

As to you and your obsession with color...Racist.

The call of the Rightie tightie:



Funny how I didn't mention colour at all, till you played that card.

[BartSimpson]

Dr. Caleb, the doctor in the article is a legal US resident/citizen and the illegals are noted as being the source for Chagas in the USA and Honduran illegals were identified by the CDC as the vector of last year's outbreak of measles.

People who enter the US legally have to provide health and vaccination info to secure a visa and they can generally be counted upon not to be carrying such diseases.

This is not new information.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/3932696

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Abstract

Chagas' disease is caused by Trypanosoma cruzi, a protozoan parasite that infects an estimated 10 to 12 million Latin Americans. Because infection is often lifelong, individuals from endemic areas may develop symptomatic chronic Chagas' disease years after emigrating to the United States. We report three immigrant patients from Latin America who illustrate the indeterminate phase and the symptomatic cardiac and gastrointestinal syndromes of this illness.

[N_Fiddledog]

As to the Pavlovian leftie call of "Shut Up", good luck with that.

Don't bring up a subject, then pout when it bites you in the ass Doc. It's too predictable.

I would like to make a comment on those pictures.

I'm getting the idea they're a novelty to people who don't know anything until the CBC tells them.

Those of us who get all sides of the news have seen them many times. So I'll explain what they are.

Obama opened the borders by getting lax on border controls.

People from central America heard about it. We began to see these pictures of hordes of Central Americans coming up from the land of tropical disease on the tops of Mexican trains.

It wasn't just Central Americans who took advantage of Obama's new policies. Mexican drug cartels enhanced the new opportunities. Koran's and Mohammedan prayer mats began to appear along the new trails.

[BartSimpson]

DrCaleb DrCaleb:

In Bart's quote, how does "Dr. Laila Woc-Colburn" imply illegal Guatemalan?

It doesn't. And I will not defend something I didn't say.

[DrCaleb]

BartSimpson BartSimpson:

Dr. Caleb, the doctor in the article is a legal US resident/citizen and the illegals are noted as being the source for Chagas in the USA and Honduran illegals were identified by the CDC as the vector of last year's outbreak of measles.

People who enter the US legally have to provide health and vaccination info to secure a visa and they can generally be counted upon not to be carrying such diseases.

This is not new information.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/3932696

$1:

Abstract

Chagas' disease is caused by Trypanosoma cruzi, a protozoan parasite that infects an estimated 10 to 12 million Latin Americans. Because infection is often lifelong, individuals from endemic areas may develop symptomatic chronic Chagas' disease years after emigrating to the United States. We report three immigrant patients from Latin America who illustrate the indeterminate phase and the symptomatic cardiac and gastrointestinal syndromes of this illness.

All true, but illegals aren't the only source of disease entering the US. Last year's outbreak at Disneyland was caused by US residents according to the CDC. It even came to Canada, through anti-vaxxers in Quebec. As the article noted, Malaria was native to North America and other diseases came in through stow away African mosquitoes.

Illegals are not the only, nor the major source of communicable disease in the US!

The whole point of the article is that poverty is the exasperating factor, and the US has been asleep at the switch in noticing it.

[N_Fiddledog]

[DrCaleb]

BartSimpson BartSimpson:

DrCaleb DrCaleb:

In Bart's quote, how does "Dr. Laila Woc-Colburn" imply illegal Guatemalan?

It doesn't. And I will not defend something I didn't say.

I'm not asking you to.

When he's not baiting me to try to come down to his level, Fiddly was relying on the part of the article you quoted to prove he's correct in his bias.

N_Fiddledog N_Fiddledog:

It's a fact. Opening the border to hordes of Guatemalan illegals makes the above quote from Bart less of a surprise.

If the illegals in this instance happen to be brown you're the one who noticed that, not me. Racist.

So I challenged him on how a Doctor practicing Medicine implies an illegal Guatemalan. As usual, all he has is insults and irrelevant pictures to back him up.