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PostPosted: Mon Aug 03, 2015 2:05 am
 


Title: Sah-ry, eh' We're in the midst of the Canadian Vowel Shift
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Posted By: N_Fiddledog
Date: 2015-08-03 00:23:26
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This doesn't surprise me in the least especially given the fact that our countries mentality is slowly degenerating into that Valley Girl think and speak. So, when you add that travesty to all the other dialects that have arrived here in the past couple of decades it's amazing we can still speak English or are even allowed to.


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PostPosted: Mon Aug 03, 2015 6:33 am
 


I don't really know anyone who talks like they're saying.

I do know some people with the "bagel" and "pillow" issue and they say "melk" instead of milk. But it's pretty much limited to just those 3 words, and usually not the same person with all 3.


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PostPosted: Mon Aug 03, 2015 6:44 am
 


There was a vowel shift in the accent used specifically by some young Camnadian women, starting about three decades ago and continuing to the present. The soft "e" sound has been replaced by a soft "a", so that "friends" has become "frands" and "west" has become "wast". I believe that this is the persistent echo of the Valley Girl accent, spread far beyond the San Fernando Valley. It is quite popular around here and it it still spreading. That goodness that not every young woman speaks this way as it is hard to take them seriously when the do. They may be brilliant but they sure don't sound that wat.


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PostPosted: Mon Aug 03, 2015 8:23 am
 


I notice it most with o sounds. Prahgress instead of Progress. I always thought we were just importing American speech with their drawn out vowels.

I really hate how we say d for t. I haven't heard one media person talk about Sepp Blatter, instead it's Bladder to the point they even made jokes about bladder, maybe didn't know how it was spelled.

Sometimes you hear a Brit talk and it's so nice, they actually pronounce the letters how the word is spelled. Tony Blair had me ready to support the Iraq war just because of how he sounded talking about it. Vs how farking ignorant Bush sounded saying the same things. (But then, the shoe fit.)


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PostPosted: Mon Aug 03, 2015 9:02 am
 


Freakinoldguy Freakinoldguy:
This doesn't surprise me in the least especially given the fact that our countries mentality is slowly degenerating into that Valley Girl think and speak. So, when you add that travesty to all the other dialects that have arrived here in the past couple of decades it's amazing we can still speak English or are even allowed to.


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OnTheIce OnTheIce:
Freakinoldguy Freakinoldguy:
This doesn't surprise me in the least especially given the fact that our countries mentality is slowly degenerating into that Valley Girl think and speak. So, when you add that travesty to all the other dialects that have arrived here in the past couple of decades it's amazing we can still speak English or are even allowed to.


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Thanks for validating my post. :lol:


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Freakinoldguy Freakinoldguy:
OnTheIce OnTheIce:
Freakinoldguy Freakinoldguy:
This doesn't surprise me in the least especially given the fact that our countries mentality is slowly degenerating into that Valley Girl think and speak. So, when you add that travesty to all the other dialects that have arrived here in the past couple of decades it's amazing we can still speak English or are even allowed to.


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Thanks for validating my post. :lol:


The same was said about your generation from the one before. It's the age old "in my day" speech that just carries on from generation to generation.


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PostPosted: Mon Aug 03, 2015 2:01 pm
 


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PostPosted: Mon Aug 03, 2015 3:29 pm
 


I remember Noli turbare circulos meos! just before I got hit by a chariot.


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PostPosted: Mon Aug 03, 2015 10:43 pm
 


OnTheIce OnTheIce:

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Thanks for validating my post. :lol:

[quote]The same was said about your generation from the one before. It's the age old "in my day" speech that just carries on from generation to generation./quote]

And back in previous generations they spoke the King's English not Valley speak. It's one thing to add words to a lexicon like previous generations did it's something entirely different to bastardized those words to suit a personal preference to be "cool".


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Freakinoldguy Freakinoldguy:

And back in previous generations they spoke the King's English not Valley speak. It's one thing to add words to a lexicon like previous generations did it's something entirely different to bastardized those words to suit a personal preference to be "cool".


Well, like it or not, times change.

The way you spoke as a child/teen was likely a tad less formal than the generation before and vise-versa up to today's generation.

One example is your use of acronyms like "TBH" and "FFS" and shortforms love "gov't". I'm sure neither appear in the King's English.


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OnTheIce OnTheIce:
Freakinoldguy Freakinoldguy:

And back in previous generations they spoke the King's English not Valley speak. It's one thing to add words to a lexicon like previous generations did it's something entirely different to bastardized those words to suit a personal preference to be "cool".


Well, like it or not, times change.

The way you spoke as a child/teen was likely a tad less formal than the generation before and vise-versa up to today's generation.

One example is your use of acronyms like "TBH" and "FFS" and shortforms love "gov't". I'm sure neither appear in the King's English.


That's the nice thing about freedom of speech. I don't have to "like it" and can bitch and complain about it all I want. ROTFL

But on the plus side when future generations end up grunting emoticons and abbreviation's because they've lost the ability to form a coherent sentence historians will be able to trace the demise of the human languages back to those cute little blond ditz's from the San Fernando Valley. :P


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 04, 2015 4:55 pm
 


Language is constantly changing. We likely sounded very British(at least in the cities) 100 years ago. Hell, if you listen to early recordings of Americans you can pick up British influences in their accents.

The Internet may prove to be an interesting influence on future accents. Before TV our accents were very Locally influenced. TV widens that influence quite a bit, but depending where you live most of the influence was National at most, even then Local still had strong influence on the individual. The Internet changes all that though, now the focus is global and even includes accents from those who speak English as a second language. Due to the highly selective nature of the Internet, it could turn out that each Individual in a Local area is being influenced by different accents.

Even the words we use are going to change. Growing up, I learned Canadian slang in school, American slang on TV, but now I hear British and Australian slang constantly on the Internet.

I don't think it's something to get worked up about. Except the letter Z, it's Zed damn it! :lol:


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