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Title: U.S. 'stand your ground' laws unlikely to budge
Category: Law & Order
Posted By: Hyack
Date: 2013-07-19 08:31:55

[Dragontail]

Wow - Stevie Wonder won't play in Florida.... Hummmmm, chalk that up to "who cares" people should have the right to use "deadly force" to protect their property.

[Brenda]

Dragontail Dragontail:

Wow - Stevie Wonder won't play in Florida.... Hummmmm, chalk that up to "who cares" people should have the right to use "deadly force" to protect their property.

And they do, even without stand your ground. Just sayin'.

[martin14]

Like doublemint gum, if SYG won't work, just general self defense will do just fine.

Double your pleasure. Just saying.

[raydan]

Dragontail Dragontail:

Wow - Stevie Wonder won't play in Florida.... Hummmmm, chalk that up to "who cares" people should have the right to use "deadly force" to protect their property.

Caught a kid stealing tomatoes from my garden... he won't be coming back.



/sarcasm off

[commanderkai]

Brenda Brenda:

Dragontail Dragontail:

Wow - Stevie Wonder won't play in Florida.... Hummmmm, chalk that up to "who cares" people should have the right to use "deadly force" to protect their property.

And they do, even without stand your ground. Just sayin'.

Stand your ground has nothing to do with this case. Just sayin'.

Why does stand your ground even come up anymore? It was a standard self defense case, not a stand your ground case.

[Brenda]

martin14 martin14:

Like doublemint gum, if SYG won't work, just general self defense will do just fine.

Double your pleasure. Just saying.

There is a difference between the 2.

[andyt]

The big fuss about this case is that initially Zimmerman was not charged. In Canada he would have been without a doubt, let the court sort it out, as should be the case. Peck makes a good argument that he would have walked even in Canada. I doubt it but see the possibility. But it's the stand your ground law that turned this case into a cause celebre. And that if races were reversed, Martin would have been charged. You betcha.

[Jabberwalker]

andyt andyt:

The big fuss about this case is that initially Zimmerman was not charged. In Canada he would have been without a doubt, let the court sort it out, as should be the case. Peck makes a good argument that he would have walked even in Canada. I doubt it but see the possibility. But it's the stand your ground law that turned this case into a cause celebre. And that if races were reversed, Martin would have been charged. You betcha.

He wouldn't have "walked" because you can't stuff a handgun into your pants an "go on patrol" around your neighbourhood. Just leaving your front door like that is an offence (maybe several come into play) in Canada.

[martin14]

andyt andyt:

But it's the stand your ground law that turned this case into a cause celebre.

See what I mean, SYG wasn't used at all in the trial.
Except a 10 second blurb from the judge.




Only in Andy's fantastic imagination. And the MSN, which fabricated recordings
to start the race-baiting.

[Brenda]

martin14 martin14:

andyt andyt:

But it's the stand your ground law that turned this case into a cause celebre.

See what I mean, SYG wasn't used at all in the trial.
Except a 10 second blurb from the judge.




Only in Andy's fantastic imagination. And the MSN, which fabricated recordings
to start the race-baiting.

They didn't have to use it (although the prosecution mentioned it in their closing statements) because it is in the law. Why point out the law during a trial when that is the job of the judge?

[martin14]

Brenda Brenda:

martin14 martin14:

andyt andyt:

But it's the stand your ground law that turned this case into a cause celebre.

See what I mean, SYG wasn't used at all in the trial.
Except a 10 second blurb from the judge.




Only in Andy's fantastic imagination. And the MSN, which fabricated recordings
to start the race-baiting.

They didn't have to use it (although the prosecution mentioned it in their closing statements) because it is in the law. Why point out the law during a trial when that is the job of the judge?

Brenda, I'm not going to replay the whole trial again.

SYG in Florida requires a separate hearing. That didn't happen.
SYG didn't play a part in the trial; only in Andy's brain.

Just need to point that out, because he will now go on a rampage and try to
twist everything.

[Brenda]

The judge mentioned it in her jury instructions. If you claim it shouldn't have been in there because there hasn't been a separate hearing about it, then it should be declared a mistrial and be done again.

You don't need to 'replay the whole trial', I have been watching it. As opposed to many, who go out from edited transcripts and parts of interviews and testimonies.

[andyt]

martin14 martin14:

andyt andyt:

But it's the stand your ground law that turned this case into a cause celebre.

See what I mean, SYG wasn't used at all in the trial.
Except a 10 second blurb from the judge.




Only in Andy's fantastic imagination. And the MSN, which fabricated recordings
to start the race-baiting.

SYG is the reason Zimmerman was not charged for 45 days and it took a huge outcry to finally have him charged. If he'd been charged in the first place, we probably would never have heard about this case.

[stratos]

The case is over, the jury gave their verdict. Everyone's bitching and moaning is wasted time.