[llama66]

BartSimpson BartSimpson:

raydan raydan:

Question... just curious

In these states that would make abortions illegal and if a woman gets an abortion... who would be breaking the law, the woman, the person aborting her or both?

Because if the woman is not breaking the law, she can just go elsewhere, out of state or out of country.

That's a legal gray area.

It used to be that US laws were enforceable upon people only within the jurisdiction of the law.

But then we had Americans getting prosecuted for sex crimes overseas (sex tourism) and that opened up Pandora's Box.

Now we have foreigners who never set foot on US soil being extradited and prosecuted in the US for acts that were not illegal in the jurisdiction where they took place.

Kim Dotcom famously was removed from New Zealand for acts that were not illegal in New Zealand.

Ergo, a woman who gets an abortion even in a state where abortion is legal could face prosecution in Alabama (for instance) even though she's never been to Alabama.

And to be clear, I do not support that possibility. Not at all.

This is the literal definition of "policy creep". This is why I'm against shit like the "online charter" and Harper's anti-terror bill, or any bill that can be reinterpreted to allow for unintended consequences.

[raydan]

Alabama should ban stupid people... then they could turn the whole state into a national park.

[xerxes]

Better yet, let them secede for good this time and they can live happily ever after in the 18th century.

[Tricks]

xerxes xerxes:

Better yet, let them secede for good this time and they can live happily ever after in the 18th century.

18th? Fuck you're generous.

[BartSimpson]

xerxes xerxes:

Better yet, let them secede for good this time and they can live happily ever after in the 18th century.

That secession thing is a tad dicey.

In Illinois this week I heard there's a plan afoot (unlikely, but who knows) to expel the Chicago urban area from Illinois and make it into its own state. Seems the rest of Illinois is getting tired of Chicago politicians fucking up their state.

If it happens (again, unlikely) then it would start a trend.

And then when the red secedes from the blue the blue parts will be isolated little islands in a sea of red.

Somehow I don't think the liberal city-states would allow this to occur peacefully.

But if they did then I'd love to see Free California charging LA for water at a fair rate of around $1 per gallon.

[BartSimpson]

raydan raydan:

Alabama should ban stupid people... then they could turn the whole state into a national park.

I see you have no plans to ever move to Alabama.