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PostPosted: Wed Aug 26, 2015 7:17 pm
 


mentally ill /= insane.

And if he never sought treatment, and didn't act out to the level of police involvement, then there'd be no record of it. Just another problem with the US system of gun "control".


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 26, 2015 7:45 pm
 


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 26, 2015 8:09 pm
 


This is another case where mental illness will be pushed aside for the pandering cry of gun control, that's if he was even mentally ill because some people are just pure fucking evil.


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 26, 2015 8:19 pm
 


It's pretty safe to say he had problems I'd say. Like I said a few pages back, it seems like he had anger issues coupled with a persecution complex.

In an ideal world he would have been red flagged after having to be escorted out of his workplace by police after being fired but that's too big brother-ish even for my liking.

But let's face it. His gun was purchased legally. He hadn't been adjudicated mentally unstable much less diagnosed. And there's plenty more people like him around the world. So the only solution is to make it harder to get a gun. Americans aren't any more or less violent than people anywhere else in the world. But what makes today's tragedy so commonplace in the U.S. and so rare in the rest of the western world is access to firearms.

But as long as people worship the gun and the second amendment, this will keep happening again and again and again. In the grand scheme of things, this is merely two more blood sacrifices on the altar of insanity that is the second amendment.


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 26, 2015 8:45 pm
 


Gun control is an easy cop out when mental illness and using medication to solve the problem is an issue no one wants to talk about.


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 26, 2015 8:56 pm
 


Everybody talks about it. Apparently tho, when it's a Muslim doing it, it's never because of mental illness.

Not sure what you are proposing? Mandatory mental illness screenings and forced drug taking? That's about the only way to make a dent here, and even then, there would be lots of people falling thru the cracks. OTOH, you might be one of the ones forced to take that medication. Never know.

Absolutely they need better mental health services in the US. But ours are not better, possibly worse in fact, yet we have a far lower rate of these gun crimes.


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 26, 2015 9:00 pm
 


xerxes xerxes:
Americans aren't any more or less violent than people anywhere else in the world.



The U.S. is more violent than 95 other countries, study shows

http://www.marketwatch.com/story/the-us ... 2015-06-17


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 26, 2015 9:07 pm
 


What a waste of life. She was rather pretty too.


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 27, 2015 9:00 am
 


llama66 llama66:
it harkens to the need for a discussion about firearms in the states, not a 'lets take guns from everyone' discussion, but how can this be prevented. I believe education and better screening, and effecting a culture change.


That last part is going to be difficult because as we find out more about Vester the more he seems to be a creation of political correctness gone mad.

Yes, I believe he was mentally ill. I imagine a number of other people think so, too.

But what happened with this guy was that he was 1) gay 2) black 3) liberal Democrat 4) a reporter...and that combination made it all but impossible for anyone to do anything about him without being denounced, fined, prosecuted, fired, or sanctioned for being 1) homophobic 2) racist 3) redneck bigot 4) anti-media.

And Vester played all of those cards to the extreme.

He was highly litigious and has a string of lawsuits to his name. He's filed multiple complaints against various individuals, employers, and organizations for discrimination and retaliation. In his early years he had a lot of success with these claims and where he was mentally ill and clearly paranoid the success he had with these claims he saw his paranoia being validated.

In his mind not only did he see other people persecuting him he had government agencies and courts validating that perception.

So when his EEOC complaint against Alison was finally dismissed he had to take matters into his own hands because, after all, his perception was right and he'd been right up until this point. Edit: This point is illustrated in his Tweet:

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If, as Vester asserted in his manifesto, that the Charleston church shooting set him off then it was only because the shooting validated his perception that white people were oppressing him and he saw the Charleston tragedy as validation of his personal paranoia.

Had the politically correct nomenklatura not existed then this man would not have been shielded from being identified and diagnosed as an aggressive and violent paranoid schizophrenic - which is what he certainly appears to be. Had he been properly diagnosed then he'd have never been able to pass the background check to purchase a firearm.

But no one was brave enough to challenge the PC status quo to go after a gay, black, liberal, Democrat, reporter.

THAT is the culture that needs to change. :idea:


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 27, 2015 9:28 am
 


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 27, 2015 9:42 am
 


I'm not for criminalizing gun ownership, but give me a heads-up if it happens.

I'll need time to buy stock in companies that contract with police and prisons because the prison population will surge to unimaginable levels.


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 27, 2015 9:50 am
 


I don't see your vote yet DanScey. :?


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