[BeaverFever]

Zipperfish Zipperfish:

BeaverFever BeaverFever:

I don't see how this has anything to do with the fact that they're Muslim. I mean nobody claims that eastern European gangs, who are some of the largest women traffickers, do it because they're Orthodox Christian.

In all likelihood these perps probably aren't very religious and simply just criminal members of the underclass.

It's not just the identity of the perpetrators, it's the identity of the victims.

Perpetrators=overwhelmingly Pakistani Muslims
Victims=overwhelmingly lower class white/mixed race girls.

Ya but that's probably just due to availability of supply of girls suitable for grooming . As I recall, the gang lured these girls with parties, drugs and alcohol...probably not many young Muslim girls out looking for that sort of thing.

[ccga3359]

Grooming gangs are only one facet of the rape culture, Overwhelmingly perpetrated by Pakistani moslems that is fact. Their victims are overwhelmingly underage and vulnerable white girls, that too is a fact. I'm aware of only one of the dozen recently prosecuted gangs that was white. 90 to 95% are Pakistani and all of them moslem. I'm sure the majority of moslems are law abiding, family oriented people but if you fail to see the pattern here then that's so telling of the problem that is being reported. Latest figures now reporting the number of victims at 2000.

[Zipperfish]

BeaverFever BeaverFever:

Ya but that's probably just due to availability of supply of girls suitable for grooming . As I recall, the gang lured these girls with parties, drugs and alcohol...probably not many young Muslim girls out looking for that sort of thing.

Did you seriously jsust say that? The white girls were "out looking for that sort of thing"? "Availability of supply"? They're not widgets. Listen to yourself FFS.

[ccga3359]

Andy, I sad some are second generation. the percentage of immigrant to British born I do not know. In the past several months several gangs have been prosecuted and lengthy jail terms handed out. They are finally cracking down on these gangs and the pattern is always the same.

[andyt]

Zipperfish Zipperfish:

BeaverFever BeaverFever:

Ya but that's probably just due to availability of supply of girls suitable for grooming . As I recall, the gang lured these girls with parties, drugs and alcohol...probably not many young Muslim girls out looking for that sort of thing.

Did you seriously jsust say that? The white girls were "out looking for that sort of thing"? "Availability of supply"? They're not widgets. Listen to yourself FFS.

Seems they were indeed looking for parties, drugs alcohol, since that lured them in, but mostly somebody to be nice to them and pay attention to them. SOP for pimps of all religions and ethnicities.

[andyt]

ccga3359 ccga3359:

Grooming gangs are only one facet of the rape culture, Overwhelmingly perpetrated by Pakistani moslems that is fact. Their victims are overwhelmingly underage and vulnerable white girls, that too is a fact. I'm aware of only one of the dozen recently prosecuted gangs that was white. 90 to 95% are Pakistani and all of them moslem. I'm sure the majority of moslems are law abiding, family oriented people but if you fail to see the pattern here then that's so telling of the problem that is being reported. Latest figures now reporting the number of victims at 2000.

The pattern is always the same no matter the religion or ethnicity of the perps. You're not really saying there is something unique to Pakistani Muslims that only they do this, are you? In this particular area it was, in other areas it's different religions and ethnicities. But that's the problem, because these are brown Muslims it gets more attention than if they were pasty faced anglican Englishmen. And because the authorities didn't act. Partly because of this false fear of being called racist, and partly, as the OP made clear, because they pretty well held the same attitude towards these girls the perps did - that they wanted it.

[andyt]

It doesn't matter that the perps were Muslim or Pakistani, unless you want to paint all Pakistani Muslims with the same brush. What these guys did is exactly how pimps work the world over. The diff is that the authorities didn't even try to do anything about it, which allowed this cesspool to fester for years.

[ccga3359]

BeaverFever BeaverFever:

Ya but that's probably just due to availability of supply of girls suitable for grooming . As I recall, the gang lured these girls with parties, drugs and alcohol...probably not many young Muslim girls out looking for that sort of thing.

Probably because they don't wish to rape their own daughters, it's because whites are scum to them, that their own fucked up teaching allow them prey on the less superior whites. It's the reason, even after several generations, they have not integrated into society.

[BeaverFever]

Zipperfish Zipperfish:

BeaverFever BeaverFever:

Ya but that's probably just due to availability of supply of girls suitable for grooming . As I recall, the gang lured these girls with parties, drugs and alcohol...probably not many young Muslim girls out looking for that sort of thing.

Did you seriously jsust say that? The white girls were "out looking for that sort of thing"? "Availability of supply"? They're not widgets. Listen to yourself FFS.

Cmon zip you're smarter than that.

Obviously the girls didn't know what they were getting into, they were lured into it with parties booze and drugs and thought it was going to be fun without knowing what was in store for them.

[martin14]

BeaverFever BeaverFever:

Zipperfish Zipperfish:

BeaverFever BeaverFever:

Ya but that's probably just due to availability of supply of girls suitable for grooming . As I recall, the gang lured these girls with parties, drugs and alcohol...probably not many young Muslim girls out looking for that sort of thing.

Did you seriously jsust say that? The white girls were "out looking for that sort of thing"? "Availability of supply"? They're not widgets. Listen to yourself FFS.

Cmon zip you're smarter than that.

Obviously the girls didn't know what they were getting into, they were lured into it with parties booze and drugs and thought it was going to be fun without knowing what was in store for them.

Yeah, those white girls were definitely asking for it.

They were out looking for it, cruising the streets for it.

They were begging for it, they wanted the booze, the drugs and the gang rapes.



Next you'll be telling us it was all 'consenual'.

[ccga3359]

andyt andyt:

ccga3359 ccga3359:

Grooming gangs are only one facet of the rape culture, Overwhelmingly perpetrated by Pakistani moslems that is fact. Their victims are overwhelmingly underage and vulnerable white girls, that too is a fact. I'm aware of only one of the dozen recently prosecuted gangs that was white. 90 to 95% are Pakistani and all of them moslem. I'm sure the majority of moslems are law abiding, family oriented people but if you fail to see the pattern here then that's so telling of the problem that is being reported. Latest figures now reporting the number of victims at 2000.

The pattern is always the same no matter the religion or ethnicity of the perps. You're not really saying there is something unique to Pakistani Muslims that only they do this, are you? In this particular area it was, in other areas it's different religions and ethnicities. But that's the problem, because these are brown Muslims it gets more attention than if they were pasty faced anglican Englishmen. And because the authorities didn't act. Partly because of this false fear of being called racist, and partly, as the OP made clear, because they pretty well held the same attitude towards these girls the perps did - that they wanted it.

Pretty much yes I am saying this is unique to Pakistani moslems in Britain. 95% of grooming gangs are Pakistani moslems raping white adolescent girls. That is 19 out of 20 grooming gangs. That is a clear pattern. White girls, as young as 11 years old, all under 16 groomed and coerced in to prostitution to be used not only the Pakistani moslems themselves but also paying customers, the vast majority, you guessed it, Pakistani moslems. In places like Peston, Derby, Oxford, Rotherham, Rochdale, Telford. From there taken to places like Bradford, Leeds, London. To places with large Pakistani moslem populations to be sold to mostly Pakistani moslem men for sex. Except for one, read ONE gang of pasty faced Anglican Englishmen (of which I happen to be a pasty faced non-practicing C of E Englishman, fuck you very much). Vulnerable children preyed on in depressed areas of Britain, and yes in a country that is very much ruled by the politically correct climate of the day. The failure to act should be a wake up call to all.

[N_Fiddledog]

ccga3359 ccga3359:

95% of grooming gangs are Pakistani moslems raping white adolescent girls. .

Well we'd better talk about the 5% then before somebody does that 'the exception is all that matters thing' they like to do when the facts don't support the story they want to believe.

First though these girls are met through a variety of methods. Who ever used the word 'party' needs to explain that, because personally I don't think he knows what he's talking about. Does he mean after the girl is groomed and they take her to a dive and start bringing their friends in? The so-called "rape parties"?

How these girls are first acquired is generally more grubby than any "party". Many of these girls are coming out of dysfunctional home lives. The groomers like the life-cripples. Taxi drivers can befriend and corrupt them. Some connections are first made at 'kebab shops'. In a video I'll post below one Sikh girl tells of being groomed when a muslim boy was sent into a sikh festival masquerading as a sikh boy to hook-up with sikh girls who would later be extorted into service by the gang.

After the grooming gang story finally made the papers and the the charges began to be filed Muslims themselves suddenly appeared with a "they do it to Muslim girls too" tale. I'll post a link. I don't know if it's the same one I read before, but in that one it didn't seem any of those cases resulted in charges, so they seemed to be more "somebody said' stories. You can make your own mind up about how credible they are. It wouldn't surprise me though that there would be weak link muslim girls a community grooming gang could call 'takfir' on and feel safe exploiting. Whoever they are though, if they exist, those girls would be the exception not the rule.

Here's some quick links. I can post more. There's one story I'd really like to post if somebody wants to challenge me on the 'sometimes they get them at their kebab shops' claim.



Stories and links to stories of Sikh girls being groomed

Claim grooming gangs also attack their own

[andyt]

ccga3359 ccga3359:

Pretty much yes I am saying this is unique to Pakistani moslems in Britain. 95% of grooming gangs are Pakistani moslems raping white adolescent girls. That is 19 out of 20 grooming gangs. That is a clear pattern. White girls, as young as 11 years old, all under 16 groomed and coerced in to prostitution to be used not only the Pakistani moslems themselves but also paying customers, the vast majority, you guessed it, Pakistani moslems. In places like Peston, Derby, Oxford, Rotherham, Rochdale, Telford. From there taken to places like Bradford, Leeds, London. To places with large Pakistani moslem populations to be sold to mostly Pakistani moslem men for sex. Except for one, read ONE gang of pasty faced Anglican Englishmen (of which I happen to be a pasty faced non-practicing C of E Englishman, fuck you very much). Vulnerable children preyed on in depressed areas of Britain, and yes in a country that is very much ruled by the politically correct climate of the day. The failure to act should be a wake up call to all.

I have trouble accepting that as accurate. How is it in England the vast majority of men who buy sex with underage girls are Muslim, when in other countries the vast majority are non-Muslim as are the pimps? Are the English Anglicans really that much purer in deed than their cousins in Canada or the US, say? It's not adding up to me. Every country has this scourge, yet for some reason in yours it's somehow confined more or less to Pakistani Muslims.

[andyt]

$1:

Members of Britain's Pakistani community reacted with outrage Wednesday

$1:

Muhbeen Hussain, founder of Rotherham Muslim Youth Group, told the Daily Mirror on Wednesday that Muslims are disgusted that justice was not done in Rotherham.

"Race, religion or political correctness should never provide a cloak of invisibility to such grotesque crimes," he said.

Barnardo's, a charity that works with vulnerable children, unilaterally condemned the abuse that left so many to suffer for so long.

Muhbeen Hussain , founder of Rotherham Muslim Youth Group, pictured on Wednesday, is among those disgusted that justice was not done in the town. (Sylvia Hui/The Associated Press)

"No one should ever be frightened to act decisively because of fear of being seen as racist or politically incorrect," said Barnardo's chief executive, Javed Khan.

Britain's Labour Party called for the resignation of the police commissioner in the town, a member of its own ranks, after the report found that "collective failures," led to inaction.

But Jay said Rotherham is not the only place in Britain struggling with this issue. She told the BBC that "demand for this kind of sexual activity with children is on the increase and that is validated across not just the UK but Europe and worldwide."

"We can't say that Rotherham is any better or worse than other places because the information simply doesn't exist at a national level to tell us that," she said.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/rotherham- ... -1.2748960

[Zipperfish]

ccga3359 ccga3359:

Pretty much yes I am saying this is unique to Pakistani moslems in Britain. 95% of grooming gangs are Pakistani moslems raping white adolescent girls. That is 19 out of 20 grooming gangs. That is a clear pattern. White girls, as young as 11 years old, all under 16 groomed and coerced in to prostitution to be used not only the Pakistani moslems themselves but also paying customers, the vast majority, you guessed it, Pakistani moslems. In places like Peston, Derby, Oxford, Rotherham, Rochdale, Telford. From there taken to places like Bradford, Leeds, London. To places with large Pakistani moslem populations to be sold to mostly Pakistani moslem men for sex. Except for one, read ONE gang of pasty faced Anglican Englishmen (of which I happen to be a pasty faced non-practicing C of E Englishman, fuck you very much). Vulnerable children preyed on in depressed areas of Britain, and yes in a country that is very much ruled by the politically correct climate of the day. The failure to act should be a wake up call to all.

Pfft. Next you'll be telling us that only muslims saw peoples heads off and take selfies with the severed heads... oh, waitaminnit