Zipperfish Zipperfish:
Freakinoldguy Freakinoldguy:
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So let me simplify my stance. We should stop all religious and cultural practices that don't coincide or conflict with the western ones but, if we're not going all in and are still allowing some of them to continue we can't suddenly decide that we can impose our values just to excuse theirs.
Western values include certain human rights and rule of law, as we see playing out in the courts right now. Adn that is why Khadr will likely soon be free on bail.
Western values don't include torturing children, which you seem to support in the case of Omar Khadr. Maybe it's you that's in the wrong country.
Do you have actual proof and not just his lawyers claim that Omar Khadr was one of the Bagram and Guantanamo inmates tortured or are you lumping him in with the actual ones who had information that the Americans extracted with prejudice?
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Omar’s introduction to Bagram was harsher than that of most detainees. Begg said the guards singled him out for the worst treatment, payback for allegedly killing one of their own. They would make him perform Sisyphean tasks, such as stacking heavy boxes and crates that the guards would knock over when he had fi nished and then force him to start again. Each time, they walked past his cell they would yell: Murderer! Killer! Butcher! “It was very, very hard to hear that because it was evident he was just a kid. Not only that, he was terribly wounded,” said Begg.
http://www.thestar.com/news/world/2015/ ... child.htmlOther than his shrapnel injuries caused by the grenade fest he started, military recruits are treated just as bad if not worse than he was and it isn't considered torture so what's so special about Omar?
As for me being in the wrong country, maybe I am because the country I served for over 30 years has definitely gone off the rails during the last half century and alot of it is thanks to self loathing liberal attitudes like yours.