Yeah, I know, Progs hate Michelle Malkin, and love to rip her from a safe distance where she can't respond, but what I love about her is when the Political Correct curtain needs to be torn down, and plain, honest English needs to be spoken, there she is...
No. She's always wrong no matter the situation.
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There's a more extensive biography of Drummer Rigby here.
Drummer Rigby was a loving father, with a very bubbly character. He was an excellent drummer, loved his job, and was a highly popular member of the platoon. He had served in Afghanistan as an FSG [Fire support group] operator and was very diligent in his work. He was always around when needed and will be sorely missed by all members of the Second Fusiliers Corps of Drums. Once a Fusilier, always a Fusilier.
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PublicAnimalNo9 PublicAnimalNo9:
andyt andyt:
So is talk. You really plan to shoot all the Muslims?
Nope, just the fuckwads that do this shit. As for the goofs in London, there's no goddam way they should be recieving treatment for their gunshot wounds. They should have been gut-shot and left to die or had their brains exploded out the back of their sick, fucking heads.
The problem with that is it is exactly what they wanted, to become martyrs.
Much better..
Locked up in a cage on public display, whipped daily, just 2 or 3 times; raffle tickets for who get to do it.
Family expelled from the UK.
Any mosque they went to.. closed.
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xerxes xerxes:
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Yeah, I know, Progs hate Michelle Malkin, and love to rip her from a safe distance where she can't respond, but what I love about her is when the Political Correct curtain needs to be torn down, and plain, honest English needs to be spoken, there she is...
No. She's always wrong no matter the situation.
You have her confused with you.
Oh, and you and forgot something in your quote. No problem...found it...
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andyt andyt:
Necessary evils to turn us into barbarians? I sure hope not, because that is what they want to do. Money to follow a justice system is not wasted. Their rights didn't end when they attacked that soldier, nor should they. That's part of living in a civilized society. What you're proposing, as I said, is how they organize themselves - we're better than that.
As for the death penalty, it's been shown not to work. It's especially stupid to think it will deter jihadis who want to go to heaven.
Legal rights and the justice system are for human beings. Anyone who'd perpetrate such an act doesn't qualify. Shoot, kill, dispose of, move on.
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PublicAnimalNo9 PublicAnimalNo9:
Necessary evils, andy. Nothing uncivilized about eradicating vermin like that.I know I know, you think human waste like these goofs have rights. They don't!They're rights ended the moment they fucking butchered that poor soul right in the streets. Now money will be wasted in court costs determining the guilt or innocence of these pieces of shit, when the whole goddam world saw what they did. See, the only time you should spend money on garbage, is when you're taking it to the dump.
+5, if I were able.
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andyt andyt:
Necessary evils to turn us into barbarians? I sure hope not, because that is what they want to do.
Oh Jesus Christ andy, quit being so obtuse. We're not talking about your ordinary dumb criminals here.
andyt andyt:
Money to follow a justice system is not wasted.
It is when the entire goddam world not only saw what they did, but watched them brag about it. Or are you suggesting that they might actually have a legitimate defence?
andyt andyt:
Their rights didn't end when they attacked that soldier, nor should they.
Yep, they should. Their animalistic behaviour is proof that they are not humans and thus should not be treated as such.
andyt andyt:
That's part of living in a civilized society.
Yep, giving these asssholes another platform to spout their hatred and idiocy is exactly what civilization is all about.
andyt andyt:
What you're proposing, as I said, is how they organize themselves - we're better than that.
Really now. Eradicating a piece of shit is the same as killing a shoplifter or an adulterer?
andyt andyt:
As for the death penalty, it's been shown not to work. It's especially stupid to think it will deter jihadis who want to go to heaven.
Good, the faster we give them their wish, the fucking better. Here's what killing those motherfuckers in the street would have accomplished: No chance for them to "convert" others in prison to their fucked up belief system. No punishing the population by forcing them to pay for these pieces's of shits food, clothing and housing. And best of all, ZERO chance of those inhuman vermin ever harming another soul again. You see, death DOES prevent a shit-stain from ever hacking up another innocent life.
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And you want the police, who didn't see the incident, play the judge and jury right there, huh? What if it turns out there was a mistake? When they get the call out, do they at least get a heads up from the dispatcher "not ordinary criminals, kill at will, allow to die without giving aid"? They were shot to prevent them from attacking the police. After that we treat them the same as any other person accused of a crime. Thank God more rational minds than yours make the decision on this.
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$1:
LONDON - British police say two more people have been arrested by officers investigating the hacking death of a U.K. soldier in London. Scotland Yard said counterterrorism officers arrested a man and a woman — both 29 — on Thursday on suspicion of conspiracy to murder. Both suspects are in custody at a south London police station.
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andyt andyt:
Necessary evils to turn us into barbarians? I sure hope not, because that is what they want to do. Money to follow a justice system is not wasted. Their rights didn't end when they attacked that soldier, nor should they. That's part of living in a civilized society. What you're proposing, as I said, is how they organize themselves - we're better than that.
As for the death penalty, it's been shown not to work. It's especially stupid to think it will deter jihadis who want to go to heaven.
andy is confusing apples and oranges. This is war, and killing the enemy doesn't factor into capital punishment and recidivism rates as it relates to criminal acts. Killing them in Britain isn't any different than killing them in Iraq, Libya or Afghanistan
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I don't see what kind of special response is required from the state with respect to these individuals. Hunt them down, interrogate them, charge them, put them away forever (or, if theya re from somewhere else) send them back. Any symbolic gesture like public beheading and putting thier heads on a pole outside the Tower, though immediately gratifying, gives them more spectacle then they deserve.
And, as previously stated, limit immigration from poorer Muslim countries. Realizing that tyhey are not alll bad apples, on balance they seem to be more trouble than they are worth.
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andyt andyt:
And you want the police, who didn't see the incident, play the judge and jury right there, huh? What if it turns out there was a mistake? When they get the call out, do they at least get a heads up from the dispatcher "not ordinary criminals, kill at will, allow to die without giving aid"? They were shot to prevent them from attacking the police. After that we treat them the same as any other person accused of a crime. Thank God more rational minds than yours make the decision on this.
Yeah yeah, we know andy. Your solution is to give them a glass of milk, a nice chocolate chip cookie and warm hug while you tell them they are wonderful human beings that are loved. From there, they'll not be discouraged from trying to convert more assholes in prison and so get to continue on with their wonderful missionary work.
Like it or not andy, sometimes you have to "out-asshole" the assholes.
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ShepherdsDog ShepherdsDog:
andyt andyt:
Necessary evils to turn us into barbarians? I sure hope not, because that is what they want to do. Money to follow a justice system is not wasted. Their rights didn't end when they attacked that soldier, nor should they. That's part of living in a civilized society. What you're proposing, as I said, is how they organize themselves - we're better than that.
As for the death penalty, it's been shown not to work. It's especially stupid to think it will deter jihadis who want to go to heaven.
andy is confusing apples and oranges. This is war, and killing the enemy doesn't factor into capital punishment and recidivism rates as it relates to criminal acts. Killing them in Britain isn't any different than killing them in Iraq, Libya or Afghanistan
War on their own citizens? Good luck with that. All of you are just blowing off steam. I just wish you had the insight to admit it. Put to a vote, I doubt you would vote for laws that would allow what you are suggesting.
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Zipperfish Zipperfish:
I don't see what kind of special response is required from the state with respect to these individuals. Hunt them down, interrogate them, charge them, put them away forever (or, if theya re from somewhere else) send them back. Any symbolic gesture like public beheading and putting thier heads on a pole outside the Tower, though immediately gratifying, gives them more spectacle then they deserve.
And, as previously stated, limit immigration from poorer Muslim countries. Realizing that they are not all bad apples, on balance they seem to be more trouble than they are worth.
Poorer Muslim countries? Saudi Arabians have never been involved in this sort of shit? Most jihadis are middle class.
Britain's problem is that they're stuck with the Commonwealth, and that they allowed this problem to fester for years because it was out of sight/mind. Not anymore. Let's hope they come up with solutions that actually work, rather than just jerking their knees or what have you.
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PublicAnimalNo9 PublicAnimalNo9:
Like it or not andy, sometimes you have to "out-asshole" the assholes.