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PostPosted: Fri Jun 19, 2015 8:54 am
 


BRAH BRAH:
BIG LIST OF DRUG-INDUCED KILLERS
Charleston church shooter may be just the latest


http://www.wnd.com/2015/06/big-list-of-drug-induced-killers/

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It's easier for the Left to blame guns and the Right to counter those arguments instead of addressing the bigger issue. While it's unclear if this played a role into Dylann Roof committing an act of Domestic Terrorism it's still an issue all sides CHOOSE to ignore.


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damn, all the things they didn't tell me in communist indoctrination school. No wonder they look at me suspiciously.

But it makes sense that the drugs are making the mentally ill act out instead of the mental illness itself.

What's different is that we used to lock up the mentally ill, now we treat them with drugs. When the drugs fail, or they stop taking them, they are out in society, and a small proportion become violent. Funny, it seems that governments of all stripes follow this policy, not just those feminazi leftist ones. Of course compared to some people, all governments are feminazi leftist ones.


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PostPosted: Fri Jun 19, 2015 9:20 am
 


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What's different is that we used to lock up the mentally ill, now we treat them with drugs.


Hate to say, but this is where I agree with the Scientologists that counseling and therapy are what's best for helping people deal with mental illness because the drugs are not reliable. Ever.

Drugs are just a bandage on a festering problem that never heals and never goes away. Unless the problem is treated then we still have a problem with the mentally ill and we're just throwing the dice on hoping that they won't murder a bunch of people.


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I agree with the Scientologists that counseling and therapy are what's best for helping people deal with mental illness

Yeah....they work wonders with sociopaths, psychopaths and schizophrenics.....not


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BartSimpson BartSimpson:
andyt andyt:
What's different is that we used to lock up the mentally ill, now we treat them with drugs.


Hate to say, but this is where I agree with the Scientologists that counseling and therapy are what's best for helping people deal with mental illness because the drugs are not reliable. Ever.

Drugs are just a bandage on a festering problem that never heals and never goes away. Unless the problem is treated then we still have a problem with the mentally ill and we're just throwing the dice on hoping that they won't murder a bunch of people.


My comment was meant as sarcasm.

Therapy is unlikely to heal schizophrenia or bipolar disorder or other severe mental illnesses. Does well with mild to moderate depression tho.

As for severe mental illness, I was taught that the Quakers had healing farms that were as effective as drugs in treating severe mental illness. Because they were so successful, the govt tried to copy them. The thing is that the Quakers had a ratio of 1 worker to 4 patients. Govts of course didn't want to pay for that, so way reduced the staffing, and turned asylums basically into warehouses.

In Boulder, a group of Buddhists, under supervision of a psychiatrist tried, to emulate the Quaker model on a small scale. The whole thing fell apart because it was way too expensive for the families to afford, and the success rate, from what I understand, wasn't that great either.

WE do way over medicate, which is a big pharma/medical establishment/medical insurance problem, hardly a leftist enterprise. But you want to go the way of Scientology, you're going to see a lot of casualties of following that craziness.


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PostPosted: Fri Jun 19, 2015 10:25 am
 


I didn't say I want to go the way of Scientology, just that I agreed with them on this one thing.


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PostPosted: Fri Jun 19, 2015 11:10 am
 


These events where multiple innocent people are killed by a single individual who, for whatever reason, snap and unleash their inner hatred on others are becoming too frequent.

At least in this case the scum was apprehended before he could take the coward way out and off himself.

My prayers go out to yet several more families whose loved ones were taken away needlessly.


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There's talk that he was a user of stolen pharmaceuticals but no evidence yet that he was some kind of lifelong Ritalin-kid that finally snapped. Until it's further clarified I'd say it's more a case of mental illness aggravated by illegal drug use than mental illness caused by prescription drug use.


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Thanos Thanos:
There's talk that he was a user of stolen pharmaceuticals but no evidence yet that he was some kind of lifelong Ritalin-kid that finally snapped. Until it's further clarified I'd say it's more a case of mental illness aggravated by illegal drug use than mental illness caused by prescription drug use.


I preferred your thoughtful analysis of yesterday when you referred to him as some 'dead-eyed autistic sh*tstain' or something to that effect! [B-o]


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This shooter's closest peers in violence, the kids joining ISIS at age 20-21 and killing far more than nine people per terrorist attack, are almost certainly not autistic. There's quite a difference between mental illness and radicalization.

No there's not. There's a difference between a developmental disability and a mental illness. Radicalization is the latter, autism the former.


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PostPosted: Fri Jun 19, 2015 1:47 pm
 


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some 'dead-eyed autistic sh*tstain'



Not a very fair assessment of those who suffer from autism. it's like saying all Whites are nazis and all Blacks are niggers, or all rig pigs are drug addled ex cons.


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No, but autism and Aspergers have kind of become a catch-all excuse-making mechanism for kids that are only uncontrollable because no one bothered to control them when they were little. For every legit autistic or Aspie there's probably another hundred who's parents were just inept and didn't bother/know how to enforce any discipline.

As for the stain in SC, going by the Jared Loughner/James Holmes look in his eyes I'd say he's one-third legit mentally sick, one-third out of it on drugs, and one third genuine hate-filled racist. Just a nasty combination of pure awfulness that got set into motion when daddy thought a firearm would be a terrific gift for an obviously unbalanced child. The leftie media is concentrating only on the racism angle, the rightie media is merely mouthing some nonsensical 'maybe this wouldn't have happened if we all prayed more' tripe. So somewhere in the middle, as usual, lies the truth. Odds are though that, just like Columbine, the real truth won't come out until long after the cameras are gone from the scene and the media can get back to it's regular task of worshipping football players and keeping up with the Kartrashians.


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Thanos Thanos:
As for the stain in SC, going by the Jared Loughner/James Holmes look in his eyes I'd say he's ...one third genuine hate-filled racist.


This may initially sound a bit of twisted logic but bear with me:

The same lack of empathy that Dylan Roof so amply demonstrated more or less precludes him from being an actual racist with a hateful and racist state of mind. Yes, he can get very angry, but he has to have empathy to be a bigot and his comments that these were 'nice people' he killed indicates he made a very cold and logical decision and not an emotional decision.

I doubt he has the capacity for the emotion that would be required to hate.

He just made a coldly logical decision and is completely lacking the human empathy that would allow him to 'feel' the pain and heartache he's inflicted on so many people.

I say this because where his emotional state and his sanity will be in question in a death penalty case I don't want to see him escape justice for what I see as a very cold and deliberate act.

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 19, 2015 3:16 pm
 


BartSimpson BartSimpson:

Medicating boys to make them more manageable for feminist public school teachers is a sacred cow of the left that you're not allowed to criticize.


However, there are some who dare.

TO STOP MASS KILLERS, WE HAVE TO STOP DRUGGING OUR YOUNG BOYS

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Sandy Hook shooter Adam Lanza? Lexapro and Celexa. Red-headed Aurora killer James Holmes? Clonazepam and sertraline. Virginia Tech mass murderer Seung-Hui Cho? Prozac. Charles Whitman, the “Texas Tower Sniper”? Dexedrine. Columbine executioners Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold? Zoloft and Luvox.

You get the idea. These young men were all on prescribed medication. Feminism helped to get them there. In particular, female teachers who either dislike men or are completely ignorant of healthy behaviour norms for boys are creating a generation of emotionally stunted, drugged up young men.

Millions of young American men are prescribed powerful drugs after being diagnosed with the phantom condition “ADHD,” better known as a mixture of natural boisterousness and poor parental discipline. The mere fact of being male has become pathologised.

When they get into their teens and early twenties, they graduate onto drugs like Zoloft and Prozac, drugs that can produce a powerfully dissociative effect in the mind, muddying the distinctions between reality and fantasy. All this, because boys are now treated as though they are defective girls.

I once clumsily wrote that video games helped to “shape the fantasies” of Isla Vista gunman Elliot Rodgers. I intended not to incriminate video games in his spiral into madness and murder but rather to point out that young men who lose grip on the real world often retreat into imaginary ones, which can then have a stylistic effect, if you like, on their crimes.

After a year of reading the research on what America is doing to its men, and interviewing hundreds of young men in preparation for my book on the GamerGate controversy, I have come to believe that in most cases it’s not games, or movies, or “misogyny,” or “racism” that drives young men to kill. It is the increasing sense of isolation and disorientation young boys feel in a world that now feels architected against them.

Dylann Roof’s actions are unlikely to have been primarily motivated by race, even though he may have identified as a white supremacist. For one thing, half his Facebook friends were black. Similarly, Elliot Rodgers wasn’t a misogynist in any meaningful sense of the word. What these terrible crimes express more clearly is a crisis in masculinity – a crisis brought about by the way we treat boys in schools.

Men, in particular introverts, and especially highly intelligent introverts who sit near the top of the autistic spectrum, are routinely ridiculed in society, cast out as “manbabies” and “privileged oppressors.” The lived experience of such men is precisely the opposite of privilege: they are punished for being boys at school, branded “creeps” or, worse, rapists for showing sexual interest at college, and after all that – assuming they even graduate – they are discriminated against in job applications.

If “Dylann” “Storm” “Roof” deserves ridicule for anything, it’s his ridiculous name and that 1990s lesbian pudding-bowl haircut, not the fact that he is a man struggling to find his place in an increasingly feminised culture. What was his mother thinking?

Namby-pamby culture in schools is partly to blame for the current crisis in manhood. Teachers, who are overwhelmingly female, freak out at boyish things like play-fighting, cops and robbers and even playing “finger guns.” At best, this is silly over-policing of natural male exuberance. At worst, it is holding boys to feminine standards of behaviour. It’s not hard to understand why some boys, after enduring this for a decade, finally snap in a tragic violent outburst...


There's more at the link.


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