[QBall]

BartSimpson BartSimpson:

No, you're just uninformed.

Up until 2002 there were actually several 'commanders-in-chief' in the US military and the term was and is used to define a military rank, not a civilian post. After 2002 the military rank of C-in-C was reserved to the President alone but it is still a military rank and subject to the UCMJ in extraordinary circumstances.

No, there were several commander-in-chiefs who USED to be in the military including George H. W. Bush, George Bush, Eisenhower, Nixon, Johnson, Truman, Kennedy and others, however all of them were retired when they were elected BECAUSE ACTIVE SERVICE MEMBERS CANNOT HOLD ELECTED OFFICE. However here's a link to the UCMJ. Please show me where it states the President or any member of the Executive, Cogress or the House is subject to it

http://www.au.af.mil/au/awc/awcgate/ucm ... %20CHAPTER

BartSimpson BartSimpson:

There are several scenarios in which a President may be temporarily relieved of his/her military command...

Here's a link to the Constitution. Show me where is states the military can remove the President from office.

http://www.archives.gov/exhibits/charte ... ution.html

BartSimpson BartSimpson:

The precedent for this kind of thing started with Woodrow Wilson who was incapacitated while in office and it was determined that his wife was effectively carrying out the duties of the President. The Secretary of War was informed of this situation and the net result was the resolution of an unConstitutional situation with an unConstitutional solution that saw the US temporarily ruled by a triumvirate of Mrs. Wilson, the Secretary of State, and the Secretary of War.

A scenario now addressed by the 25th Amendment which was adopted long after Wilson's term. Now the Vice President and and a majority of the cabinet can submit to Congress and the House that the President is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office. If the military took action based on the above scenario it would be a coup.

BartSimpson BartSimpson:

If you're still active duty then you have access to your branch's war college and can easily verify what I'm saying with a simple email inquiry.

That's not how debate works. You have to present material to support your own arguments, which so far you've produced zero except for asinine opinions based on fantasy. Expecting others to go digging for garbage for you shows you know this.

[QBall]

BartSimpson BartSimpson:

QBall QBall:

What part of the military cannot draft a law/regulation/order that violates the Constitution or the powers of the Executive, Congress or the House do you not understand?

Edit: Lord knows, we have laws against murder and corruption, too, and I guess in your private little paradise nothing like that ever happens, does it?

What the hell are you talking about? Now you're resorting to red herrings in a desperate attempt to save face?

[ShepherdsDog]

On a note related to the actual thread, NK has told foreign embassies to be ready to leave