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Posted: Mon Oct 03, 2011 11:04 am
OnTheIce OnTheIce: eureka eureka: Do you seriously think that a Back Bencher submitted a Bill without Harper's approval? It would not happen in any Party.
With this CPC Party, not only does a Private Bill need Harper's blessing, but, usually, it will be on Harper's instructions. That has happened a few times as he brings his agenda to do those things that he has promised not to do out by stealth.
You seriously don't have a clue, so please take my suggestion.... Don't talk about things you don't know about. Don't pretend like you know what happened because you don't. You're spewing typical anti-Harper garbage. I have first hand knowledge of this bill and this MP....I know the family. This bill was given it's blessing my the Heritage Minister, nobody else. Harper didn't instruct John to draw up the bill either... If I could do the rep points while on my blackberry, I would.
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Posted: Mon Oct 03, 2011 11:06 am
Canadian_Mind Canadian_Mind: OnTheIce OnTheIce: eureka eureka: Do you seriously think that a Back Bencher submitted a Bill without Harper's approval? It would not happen in any Party.
With this CPC Party, not only does a Private Bill need Harper's blessing, but, usually, it will be on Harper's instructions. That has happened a few times as he brings his agenda to do those things that he has promised not to do out by stealth.
You seriously don't have a clue, so please take my suggestion.... Don't talk about things you don't know about. Don't pretend like you know what happened because you don't. You're spewing typical anti-Harper garbage. I have first hand knowledge of this bill and this MP....I know the family. This bill was given it's blessing my the Heritage Minister, nobody else. Harper didn't instruct John to draw up the bill either... If I could do the rep points while on my blackberry, I would. I'd do it for you, but his rep is off.
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Posted: Mon Oct 03, 2011 11:19 am
OnTheIce OnTheIce: This has nothing to do with Harper, try to understand what's going on, before you incorrectly shit on the wrong guy.
This is a private members bill brought forth my backbench MP, John Carmichael.
This is what backbench MP's do....they tackle issues like this that directly affect their City and riding.
There are issues like this in Toronto and specifically in the riding of Don Valley West.
This is what we want MP's do be doing. Representing their community.
Well, I'm surprised because I thought that suburban TO was a Conservatives mecca. But I guess you're telling me that you've got you've got the Gestapo out there tearing down Canada flags from good God-feerin' Canayjuns. Let me tell you that out where I'm from, in lefty Lotusland, I've never heard of anyone stopping anyone else from flying a Canadian flag. It's got nothing do with representing your community. It's some dinglenuts backbencher trying to get his name in the paper with a motherhood issue that, well, isn't an issue anyways. It's a big fat waste of money, everybody knows it, except that typical partisan hacks--stand up, you know who you are--who are actually incapable of taking a point of view that veers from the Conservative Party orthodoxy. As a test,we can ask CKA how many times the federal government has asked him to shut down this site because of all the Canada flags. 
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andyt
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Posted: Mon Oct 03, 2011 11:24 am
Zipperfish Zipperfish: Well, I'm surprised because I thought that suburban TO was a Conservatives mecca. But I guess you're telling me that you've got you've got the Gestapo out there tearing down Canada flags from good God-feerin' Canayjuns. Let me tell you that out where I'm from, in lefty Lotusland, I've never heard of anyone stopping anyone else from flying a Canadian flag. It's got nothing do with representing your community. It's some dinglenuts backbencher trying to get his name in the paper with a motherhood issue that, well, isn't an issue anyways. It's a big fat waste of money, everybody knows it, except that typical partisan hacks--stand up, you know who you are--who are actually incapable of taking a point of view that veers from the Conservative Party orthodoxy. AS a test,we can ask CKA how many times the federal government has asks him to shut down this site because of all the Canada flags.   Beware the wrath of Zip.
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Posted: Mon Oct 03, 2011 11:26 am
andyt andyt:  Beware the wrath of Zip. Was it wrathful? Wasn't really intended to be. Maybe it's time for bed. Cheers all.
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andyt
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Posted: Mon Oct 03, 2011 11:31 am
No biggie. You've just been spanking the righties lately, which is always fun to watch.
In this case I don't see what the big argument is in either direction. Is this bill really necessary? OTOH, how can you argue against it?
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Posted: Mon Oct 03, 2011 11:38 am
Lol, ya typical conservative agenda, a few guys erasing the word "Canada" everywhere they go, and a few others spray painting "Canada" everywhere they go.
Seems pretty hypocritical to me to have people in the same party wasting our time and money on these issues. If you can call them issues. More like "non-issues".
Get to work, fix the economy, create jobs and quit wasting our money on this crap. If they are burning flags, that means more manufacturing jobs. Create a "Burn your Flag on Wednesdays" event and think of all the hundreds of flag making jobs this country would have!!
What a bunch of fucking idiots we have elected in Ottawa. A flag is a flag, I'm a proud Canadian and I still will be no matter how many business cards the Con MP's have without the word CANDADA on them.
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andyt
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Posted: Mon Oct 03, 2011 11:47 am
Let's fly it proudly: 
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Wada
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Posted: Mon Oct 03, 2011 11:50 am
It's a slippery slope to fascism....next thing they'll be passing a law requiring we fly the flag! 
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OnTheIce 
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Posted: Mon Oct 03, 2011 12:37 pm
Zipperfish Zipperfish: Well, I'm surprised because I thought that suburban TO was a Conservatives mecca. But I guess you're telling me that you've got you've got the Gestapo out there tearing down Canada flags from good God-feerin' Canayjuns. Let me tell you that out where I'm from, in lefty Lotusland, I've never heard of anyone stopping anyone else from flying a Canadian flag.
It's got nothing do with representing your community. It's some dinglenuts backbencher trying to get his name in the paper with a motherhood issue that, well, isn't an issue anyways. It's a big fat waste of money, everybody knows it, except that typical partisan hacks--stand up, you know who you are--who are actually incapable of taking a point of view that veers from the Conservative Party orthodoxy.
Yet another face palm. Why bother talking about things and places you know nothing about? Don Valley West isn't some suburb of Toronto, it's in the heart of Toronto where we have condo boards going Nazi over someone that wants to put a flag on their balcony as it ruins the "image" of the building. Stick to talking about what you know, not what you pretend to know.
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Posted: Mon Oct 03, 2011 12:46 pm
Condo boards have that right. When you live in a condo the image and upkeep of the exterior of the building and other common property is the responsibility of the board. The board can make policies because the board is made up of residents elected to it by other residents. If they don't want flags of any type flying from balconies it's up to them.
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Wada
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Posted: Mon Oct 03, 2011 12:57 pm
A flag hanging from a balcony railing is so very attractive. It lifts the ambience. It reminds me of the lottery commercial where the young winning couple from the Maritimes are infactuated with the new condo they just bought looking over the 401. Buddy exclaims with delight, " You don't find that in Nova Scotia!" You got God awful looking structures and you think they look better with flags hanging from their balconies. What a waste! 
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Posted: Mon Oct 03, 2011 1:02 pm
Dragon-Dancer Dragon-Dancer: Condo boards have that right. When you live in a condo the image and upkeep of the exterior of the building and other common property is the responsibility of the board. The board can make policies because the board is made up of residents elected to it by other residents. If they don't want flags of any type flying from balconies it's up to them. Well, if you had read the article, it looks like that is exactly what the bill is trying to address. Nothing wrong with flying the flag.
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Posted: Mon Oct 03, 2011 1:35 pm
What you do in your own private space is up to you. I for one would like the option to protest to the board when my upstairs neighbor decides he wants to drape a 10+ foot Canadian flag over his balcony railing thus obscuring the view from my own balcony (Yes this did happen to me once a few years back). I also don't think there is a need for a law. Condo communities make their own standards, you accept that when you sign up to live in a condo.
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Posted: Mon Oct 03, 2011 2:33 pm
Macguyver Macguyver: I'm a proud Canadian and I still will be no matter how many business cards the Con MP's have without the word CANDADA on them. How ironic. 
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