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[fifeboy]

Public_Domain Public_Domain:

It takes very little to make a very messed up joke,

Yup, here and in more "serious" threads.

[Jabberwalker]

Public_Domain Public_Domain:

Holy hell you guys are old. My mother wasn't even born until '75. My grandmother might do better here than I would, she's from '49.

The older of my grandfathers (not by a whole lot, though) was born in 1863 and my son was born in 2003, so four generations span 140 years. It's actually quite normal for people in my family (the men more but not exclusively) to have children later. I cannot think of anyone in my extended family that has had children before they are, say, 28-30. Why? It is apparently cultural but also, my family have tended towards considerable post-secondary education and reproducing when you are 18 definitely interferes with that. Even well back into the 19th century, it's been the same pattern. My "normal" is your abnormal and vice versa.

[bootlegga]

BartSimpson BartSimpson:

We generally don't do too bad with snow. Up on the passes east of here there's been about 30cm of snow in the past 72 hours with up to two meters of snow in the past month.

We put on chains, drive slow, and we get through it just fine. In my experience, though, the people who consistently get into trouble are the urbanites who go to the mountains in their expensive BMW or Mercedes AWD and then think that just because they spent $80,000 on the car it gives them the right to ignore the laws of physics.

Upside: Come the spring there's always a nice availability in high-end parts at the salvage yards.

What is it with Americans and snow chains? There's an invention called snow tires that work just as well (if not better) and don't tear up the road...

[andyt]

You don't have chains required laws in Alberta, where snow tires are deemed just not good enough? No mountains near Edmonton?

[bootlegga]

andyt andyt:

You don't have chains required laws in Alberta, where snow tires are deemed just not good enough? No mountains near Edmonton?

Technically, no. Some of the roads in the river valley (like 105 street & Bellamy Hill) are 30-40 degrees up and in the winter can be challenging, but the only people who can't handle them are those with all-seasons.

I've driven up and down the Rockies during winter and have never needed chains, just winter tires. About the only people I've ever seen with chains are those who go off-roading or 18 wheelers.

[Unsound]

bootlegga bootlegga:

Technically, no. Some of the roads in the river valley (like 105 street & Bellamy Hill) are 30-40 degrees up and in the winter can be challenging, but the only people who can't handle them are those with all-seasons.

I used to have an apartment on 105 and 98 ave. Many a winter afternoon was spent watching out the window and laughing at some poor sucker spinning away, or worse getting out to push his car up the hill. Never had any problems with it myself, even all seasons are fine if they're not bald.

[herbie]

Hyack Hyack:

herbie herbie:

'64 or '65? Closed my elementary school in Burnaby

Where the Hell was that? '64-'65 I was kicking around MasPherson Park and Moscrop secondary reform centers.

Parkcrest school across the street. Can't remember if I was Gr 7 there or already at Kensington High.
Back in the days when the only single parented kid's Dad was killed making the 2nd Narrows, nobody in the school was divorced, SFU was being built. You learned to curse in English, Cantonese, Polish, German, Italian and Hungarian but French was this mysterious language you only heard about. If you were black, your Dad played for the Lions.

[fifeboy]

bootlegga bootlegga:

andyt andyt:

You don't have chains required laws in Alberta, where snow tires are deemed just not good enough? No mountains near Edmonton?

Technically, no. Some of the roads in the river valley (like 105 street & Bellamy Hill) are 30-40 degrees up and in the winter can be challenging, but the only people who can't handle them are those with all-seasons.

I've driven up and down the Rockies during winter and have never needed chains, just winter tires. About the only people I've ever seen with chains are those who go off-roading or 18 wheelers.

4 wheel drive capability on a 2 wheel drive:


Really only applies to on road conditions with ice, not real offroad conditions, but well worth the small investment.

[BRAH]

I drove through the coquihalla last year in November without chains or winter tires and my VW with all seasons did fine.

[Jabberwalker]

Things go better with Coquihalla.