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PostPosted: Thu May 22, 2014 8:15 am
 


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Queenie seems to be feeling her age, has been cutting back on official functions. Chuck seems to be getting set to take over the family business. I doubt he actually wants it, so he should have a serious discussion with William. But, being a good dad he may want to give William some more years for relative freedom, although being next in line would already step it up a notch for him.

It's not either of their choice, it's the Queens choice. So a father son discussion makes no difference.


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PostPosted: Thu May 22, 2014 8:18 am
 


Queen hands over the reigns to Prince Charles - historic step closer to a new king

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PostPosted: Thu May 22, 2014 8:47 am
 


Supposedly soon after his mother died William swore that when he became king he would end the Royal house and basically make it so England no longer had royalty. Not sure how this could be done or even if he would do something like this years later.


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PostPosted: Thu May 22, 2014 12:49 pm
 


Actually Putin is behaving more like an Imperial Russian Czar than Adolf Hitler. He is looking to expand his empire, just like many other Czars did.


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PostPosted: Thu May 22, 2014 2:19 pm
 


My opiinon of Charles just went up.


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PostPosted: Thu May 22, 2014 2:36 pm
 


He also made a point of snubbing Jiang Zemin at a state dinner in 1997. He said he didn't dine with dictators. All reports have him as someone who is quite approachable and very involved in his lands and with his tenants.


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PostPosted: Thu May 22, 2014 2:43 pm
 


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He also made a point of snubbing Jiang Zemin at a state dinner in 1997. He said he didn't dine with dictators. All reports have him as someone who is quite approachable and very involved in his lands and with his tenants.

Hearing this I'm tending to agree with ZIP. There is something positive about somebody in his position refusing to dine with thug murders. I may be wrong in my previous comments as this is exactly what a Constitutional Monarch should be doing.

This is probably something only a Constitutional Monarch can do. I this world we have Presidents and PMs who have to deal with lot of thug nations and "make nice". Prince Charles and William are in a position to make it plain that while we have to deal with you in a practical way you are not as respectable as you think. My President probably couldn't do it, Charles can.


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He also made a point of snubbing Jiang Zemin at a state dinner in 1997. He said he didn't dine with dictators. All reports have him as someone who is quite approachable and very involved in his lands and with his tenants.

Hearing this I'm tending to agree with zip. There is something positive about somebody in his position refusing to dine with thug murders. I may be wrong in my previous comments as this is exactly what a Constitutional Monarch should be doing.

This is probably something only a Constitutional Monarch can do. I this world we have Presidents and PMs who have to deal with lot of thug nations and "make nice". Prince Charles and William are in a position to make it plain that while we have to deal with you in a practical way you are not as respectable as you think. My President probably couldn't do it, Charles can.



Elizabeth II has dined with dictators.

There is a difference between being the heir and being the Monarch.


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PostPosted: Thu May 22, 2014 4:06 pm
 


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Queen hands over the reigns to Prince Charles - historic step closer to a new king

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Wow. Well, it had to happen one day and it seems like a good decision for her to let go of some of her duties gradually.

She still looks good for 88 though.


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PostPosted: Thu May 22, 2014 5:25 pm
 


GreenTiger GreenTiger:
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I'm hoping that Queen Elizabeth will skip Charles and give the Crown to William. Charles and Camilla on the throne would not serve the institution well.


How so?

In my opinion William represent a better version of what a Constitutional Monarchy for this day in age than Charles. William is a good deal more popular in Australia for instance and with a loving wife and child at his side seems to be more attractive.


Charles tends to give the impression that the relevance has passed and Camilla doesn't help.


That's a statement more referring to personal popularity. You might need to define what you think the King's role in the Constitutional Monarchy in the 21st century beyond good looks and popularity.

Otherwise we could hire a Kardashian.


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PostPosted: Thu May 22, 2014 5:55 pm
 


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The monarch and his or her immediate family undertake various official, ceremonial, diplomatic and representational duties. As the monarchy is constitutional, the monarch is limited to non-partisan functions such as bestowing honours and appointing the Prime Minister. The monarch is, by tradition, commander-in-chief of the British Armed Forces. Though the ultimate formal executive authority over the government of the United Kingdom is still by and through the monarch's royal prerogative, these powers may only be used according to laws enacted in Parliament and, in practice, within the constraints of convention and precedent.
Figure head. But as head of state, Chuck needs to watch what he says while on official business. Momsy would not have made this mistake.


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PostPosted: Thu May 22, 2014 6:15 pm
 


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$1:
The monarch and his or her immediate family undertake various official, ceremonial, diplomatic and representational duties. As the monarchy is constitutional, the monarch is limited to non-partisan functions such as bestowing honours and appointing the Prime Minister. The monarch is, by tradition, commander-in-chief of the British Armed Forces. Though the ultimate formal executive authority over the government of the United Kingdom is still by and through the monarch's royal prerogative, these powers may only be used according to laws enacted in Parliament and, in practice, within the constraints of convention and precedent.
Figure head. But as head of state, Chuck needs to watch what he says while on official business. Momsy would not have made this mistake.


Sounds like he indulged in some of those diplomatic duties.

Good for him.


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PostPosted: Thu May 22, 2014 9:25 pm
 


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It's got nothing to do with whether Putin is or isn't Hitler. It's Charles' role, as heir to the throne. He's not supposed to get involved in politics. If our GG started voicing political opinions, we wouldn't be too keen on it either. And again, I wonder if the people defending Charles would do so if they didn't agree with his opinion?



Exactly look at what getting involved in somebody else's politics did for Edward and Mr. Oswald Mosley. One got a house in the Bahamas' and the other got a House in Holloway Prison.

So sometimes playing politics doesn't pay, even for Kings and Nazi Members of Parliament. ROTFL

And given his statement about Mr. Putin it would appear that Charles is like Edward in more ways than one. :wink:


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PostPosted: Thu May 22, 2014 9:32 pm
 


Sorry, you've lost me. I don't actually care much what Charles does, except if it screws up the British govt's attempts to deal with the situation. He's on an official trip, needs to be careful what he says.

I actually feel sorry for the guy. I don't think he's had a very happy life. But, he's getting paid well to do a job, and he's got to either do it well or step back.


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PostPosted: Thu May 22, 2014 9:41 pm
 


I think he's doing it very well.


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