[RUEZ]

Let's also do away with the gun registry. It's already against the law to use a gun in a crime.

[Zipperfish]

I'm with the NDP on this one. I've been around a long time and I've never ever heard of anyone ever having any problem flying a Canadian flag. I've flown a few in my day, and I don't recall writing to city hall for a permit to do so, and if my neighbour complained I wouldn't imagine the police would be tripping over themselves to arrest the wayward flag-waver.

We got serious issues that we need dealing with in Canada, Harper. Quit fucking around.

[Canadian_Mind]

Call it a preventative measure. 20 years ago no one would have imagined that they would stop singing the national anthem in public schools because it offends someone.

[peck420]

From article:

$1:

"I've received (a) plentiful number of emails and correspondence from Canadians who have been restricted from flying the flag," said Carmichael.

I have yet to see an actual person denied from flying the flag in Canada.

I have seen lots of persons denied the apparatus they wish to use to fly said flag.

Ie: 36' flag poles in areas with height restricitons, flag poles mounted to buildings that do not belong to you (apartments, leases, etc.)

Is the issue the flag, or what will display the flag?

[BeaverFever]

ShepherdsDog ShepherdsDog:

$1:

Guys -- we already have protections on the freedom of speech that adequately cover this subject. This new law will not change anything one bit. It's cheap pandering.

So you'd be OK with doing away with 'hate crimes' too? The laws are already on our books to deal with threats, intimidation, harassment and assault.

Totally different. We're talking about a right to commit a certian act vs laws that prevent certian acts. Flying the flag already has implied protection under existing Charter rights so this law would not change anything.

Hate crimes, and terrorism for that matter, have implications beyond the direct acts of threats, assault, murder, etc. If you recognize that special laws should exist for terrorism, then just apply that same logic to hate crimes because its the same principle.

Further, this new "right" would still be subject to provisions of "reasonableness" i.e. the NDP scenario of a prison inmate using the flag a curtain to hide his activities, would probably not occur as I'm sure a court would rule the inmate's use of a flag as a privacy curtain is unreasonable. Im sure a court would find that a patriotic inmate (if such a thing exists) could adequately express their patiriotism with a smaller flag mounted on the wall.

[Macguyver]

RUEZ RUEZ:

herbie herbie:

It's a stupid "let's be like Americans" law that's not needed, not wanted, but it will make more criminals which is what they're good at doing.

Christ, every time the Conservatives fart you people compare him to the Americans. You need a new play book.

Irony= Creating Canadian flag laws with one hand whist erasing the word “Canada” for Canadian MP’s business cards with the other.

[BeaverFever]

Don't forget rebranding "Government of Canada" with "The Harper Government" on official government communications and websites.

[OnTheIce]

Zipperfish Zipperfish:

I'm with the NDP on this one. I've been around a long time and I've never ever heard of anyone ever having any problem flying a Canadian flag. I've flown a few in my day, and I don't recall writing to city hall for a permit to do so, and if my neighbour complained I wouldn't imagine the police would be tripping over themselves to arrest the wayward flag-waver.

We got serious issues that we need dealing with in Canada, Harper. Quit fucking around.

This has nothing to do with Harper, try to understand what's going on, before you incorrectly shit on the wrong guy.

This is a private members bill brought forth my backbench MP, John Carmichael.

This is what backbench MP's do....they tackle issues like this that directly affect their City and riding.

There are issues like this in Toronto and specifically in the riding of Don Valley West.

This is what we want MP's do be doing. Representing their community.

[EyeBrock]

I'm all for this kind of stuff. This private members bill has more honour than watching Denis Coderre and Saint Jack Layton march in Hezbollah rallies.

[eureka]

OnTheIce OnTheIce:

Zipperfish Zipperfish:

I'm with the NDP on this one. I've been around a long time and I've never ever heard of anyone ever having any problem flying a Canadian flag. I've flown a few in my day, and I don't recall writing to city hall for a permit to do so, and if my neighbour complained I wouldn't imagine the police would be tripping over themselves to arrest the wayward flag-waver.

We got serious issues that we need dealing with in Canada, Harper. Quit fucking around.

This has nothing to do with Harper, try to understand what's going on, before you incorrectly shit on the wrong guy.

This is a private members bill brought forth my backbench MP, John Carmichael.

This is what backbench MP's do....they tackle issues like this that directly affect their City and riding.

There are issues like this in Toronto and specifically in the riding of Don Valley West.

This is what we want MP's do be doing. Representing their community.

Do you seriously think that a Back Bencher submitted a Bill without Harper's approval? It would not happen in any Party.

With this CPC Party, not only does a Private Bill need Harper's blessing, but, usually, it will be on Harper's instructions. That has happened a few times as he brings his agenda to do those things that he has promised not to do out by stealth.

[EyeBrock]

You have proof that previous private member's bills from CPC MP's were on Harper's 'orders'?

[martin14]

Or proof that previous governments had no restrictions or supervision of private members bills ?

[Wada]

Are these private members still sitting?

[OnTheIce]

eureka eureka:

Do you seriously think that a Back Bencher submitted a Bill without Harper's approval? It would not happen in any Party.

With this CPC Party, not only does a Private Bill need Harper's blessing, but, usually, it will be on Harper's instructions. That has happened a few times as he brings his agenda to do those things that he has promised not to do out by stealth.

You seriously don't have a clue, so please take my suggestion....

Don't talk about things you don't know about. Don't pretend like you know what happened because you don't. You're spewing typical anti-Harper garbage.

I have first hand knowledge of this bill and this MP....I know the family. This bill was given it's blessing my the Heritage Minister, nobody else. Harper didn't instruct John to draw up the bill either...

[Wada]

anti- Harper garbage.....and you haven'nt got used to the smell....you will