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Posted: Tue Oct 28, 2008 10:57 am
PluggyRug PluggyRug: Has anyone noticed. On election voting day the city of Toronto burns about 20,000 pot plants. The whole city is high Thats why everyone votes Liberal or NDP.  And I thought that haze over TO was smog, just I should have known better 
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Posted: Tue Oct 28, 2008 11:00 am
Can I insert a joke about the connection between meth lab clouds over areas voting conservative? 
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Posted: Tue Oct 28, 2008 11:17 am
DerbyX DerbyX: SigPig SigPig: There are other pain medications out there that work just as well. But people are afraid on stepping on peoples toes with their we "can't tell people what they can or can't do" mentality. I mean when a judge says that Ottawa controlling an illigal substance is unconstituional that is just getting out of control. IMO thats just suicidal liberalism at work again.
You also siad "People desperately want it" but that begs the question of why? Is it because they just enjoy its affects and found a convenient reason to get some? Like I said before,the bigger issue IMO is that 50 grams to be completely excessive and goes beyond a pain management program. These people have a different problem at this point then whatever illness that they are apparently suffering from.
Don't you think the medical community knows this? Pain alleviation is just one of the uses. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marijuana#Medical_useWhat makes you think the govt has the right to stop people from using MJ? Would you support them outlawing alcohol too considering the death and destruction it causes? How about gambling? Smoking? fatty foods? I think people need to do a little more research before condemning the practice. All medication has side effects, addiction possibilities, and complications such as drug interactions with any other life saving drug they may be taking. I think the government SHOULD be allowed to control the supply of medicinal marijuana because, unlike smoking, gambling and fatty foods, it is illegal. They need to ensure that this legitamized mariuana market doesnt end up in the hands of the general population. And when these recipients complain about the quality of the weed supplied by the government, they sound more like potheads i know who smoke it recreationally than someone who is trying to alleviate pain. Further reinforced by the ridiculous amounts that they consume each day.
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Posted: Tue Oct 28, 2008 11:43 am
Legalization can be changed with the stroke of a pen.
The public doesn't need medicinal MJ. So far what I've read about its quality is much lower then any respectable BC bud or Ontario grow-op.
If you really want to get down to brass tacts then yes, quality is a factor. Why smoke 2 or 3 joints to get the needed level of THC when 1 will do?
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Posted: Tue Oct 28, 2008 11:54 am
Pot is not aspirin. There are drugs like Viagra and Celebrex that are also recreational in nature as well that have far more deadly side effects. Let's not forget Prozac the zombie drug, by means of comparison mj is downright safe. Sometime, if you have a herbal alternative it better for you because the drug industry options are overpowered and too toxic for what you are looking for.
I suppose they could sniff glue or gas, that's legal right?
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acidcomplex
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Posted: Tue Oct 28, 2008 12:20 pm
DerbyX DerbyX: Without any specifics of her case I can't say whats warranted but since I believe in freedom of choice anyway the amount doesn't concern me. Its her life afterall and if thats what it takes to improve her quality of life then its her choice right?
yeah comeon 50 grams a day is allot of the good stuff.
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Posted: Tue Oct 28, 2008 1:00 pm
acidcomplex acidcomplex: DerbyX DerbyX: Without any specifics of her case I can't say whats warranted but since I believe in freedom of choice anyway the amount doesn't concern me. Its her life afterall and if thats what it takes to improve her quality of life then its her choice right?
yeah comeon 50 grams a day is allot of the good stuff. You'd be gooned all day and then some 
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Posted: Tue Oct 28, 2008 3:10 pm
$1: She consumes 50 grams a day by eating it, drinking it in tea, and smoking 30 joints. Enjoy your lung cancer.
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Posted: Tue Oct 28, 2008 7:01 pm
SigPig SigPig: There are other pain medications out there that work just as well. But people are afraid on stepping on peoples toes with their we "can't tell people what they can or can't do" mentality. I mean when a judge says that Ottawa controlling an illigal substance is unconstituional that is just getting out of control. IMO thats just suicidal liberalism at work again. When a judge says the act of controlling an illegal substance that is not harmful, and is beneficial to many people, is actually illegal in itself, that is the justice doing its job.
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Posted: Tue Oct 28, 2008 7:03 pm
dino_bobba_renno dino_bobba_renno: DerbyX DerbyX: Tell that to people in constant pain. Trust me that constant pain that won't go away simply eats away at any resolve and eventually you will accept whatever risk to stop it.
Its entirely why medicinal MJ exists. Derb, have you ever even smoked up before? We're talking 2 ounces a day man!!! A day!!! If you had to smoke Health Canada's weed, you'd need 2oz a day to feel any effect too. That stuff is really weak, according to everyone that uses it.
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Posted: Tue Oct 28, 2008 7:04 pm
romanP romanP: When a judge says controlling an illegal substance that is not harmful, and is beneficial to many people, is actually illegal in itself, that is the justice doing its job. You don't think sucking smoke into your lungs isn't harmful?
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Posted: Tue Oct 28, 2008 7:07 pm
romanP romanP: dino_bobba_renno dino_bobba_renno: DerbyX DerbyX: Tell that to people in constant pain. Trust me that constant pain that won't go away simply eats away at any resolve and eventually you will accept whatever risk to stop it.
Its entirely why medicinal MJ exists. Derb, have you ever even smoked up before? We're talking 2 ounces a day man!!! A day!!! If you had to smoke Health Canada's weed, you'd need 2oz a day to feel any effect too. That stuff is really weak, according to everyone that uses it. Medicinal MJ is crap, tastes like crap, doesnt have the same effect as good ole BC bud.
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Posted: Tue Oct 28, 2008 7:08 pm
RUEZ RUEZ: romanP romanP: When a judge says controlling an illegal substance that is not harmful, and is beneficial to many people, is actually illegal in itself, that is the justice doing its job. You don't think sucking smoke into your lungs isn't harmful? There are other ways of consuming weed. It can baked into cookies and brownies, melted into butter (potcorn!), and even vapourised. If you must inhale, vapourising is the best way to go, as it doesn't give you all of the ash and tar that smoking does, just pure THC vapour.
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acidcomplex
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Posted: Wed Oct 29, 2008 12:49 pm
dino_bobba_renno dino_bobba_renno: acidcomplex acidcomplex: DerbyX DerbyX: Without any specifics of her case I can't say whats warranted but since I believe in freedom of choice anyway the amount doesn't concern me. Its her life afterall and if thats what it takes to improve her quality of life then its her choice right?
yeah comeon 50 grams a day is allot of the good stuff. You'd be gooned all day and then some  LOL hopefully 
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acidcomplex
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Posted: Wed Oct 29, 2008 12:51 pm
romanP romanP: If you must inhale, vapourising is the best way to go, as it doesn't give you all of the ash and tar that smoking does, just pure THC vapour. Vap's rule and are a "clean" way to do it
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