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PostPosted: Wed May 28, 2008 9:04 am
 


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I know this site has more than its fair share of rednecks and Kanadian Krakkkers...

So you have just over 360 posts and you think you are qualified to make that generalization?

OK, Mr. Forum-Posting-Scientist, what is the algorithm that determines my qualifications for name-calling based on number of postings made?
While I may have only posted 360 times I've been READING this site daily for 6 months. Did you know there's a difference between reading and writing? Well, you do now! I rest my case.


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PostPosted: Wed May 28, 2008 9:06 am
 


C.M. Burns C.M. Burns:
RUEZ RUEZ:
C.M. Burns C.M. Burns:
I know this site has more than its fair share of rednecks and Kanadian Krakkkers...

So you have just over 360 posts and you think you are qualified to make that generalization?

OK, Mr. Forum-Posting-Scientist, what is the algorithm that determines my qualifications for name-calling based on number of postings made?
While I may have only posted 360 times I've been READING this site daily for 6 months. Did you know there's a difference between reading and writing? Well, you do now! I rest my case.

No shortage of assholes around here either.


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PostPosted: Wed May 28, 2008 9:09 am
 


RUEZ RUEZ:
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RUEZ RUEZ:
So you have just over 360 posts and you think you are qualified to make that generalization?

OK, Mr. Forum-Posting-Scientist, what is the algorithm that determines my qualifications for name-calling based on number of postings made?
While I may have only posted 360 times I've been READING this site daily for 6 months. Did you know there's a difference between reading and writing? Well, you do now! I rest my case.

No shortage of assholes around here either.

Assholes? You mean assholes like you who think they alone can decide who is allowed to use the word redneck? Cry me a river...


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PostPosted: Wed May 28, 2008 9:15 am
 


C.M. Burns C.M. Burns:
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No shortage of assholes around here either.

Assholes? You mean assholes like you who think they alone can decide who is allowed to use the word redneck? Cry me a river...

Sorry I just don't think some noob is qualified to tell us this place is full of rednecks and "krackkkers" whatever that's supposed to mean.


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PostPosted: Wed May 28, 2008 9:18 am
 


RUEZ RUEZ:
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No shortage of assholes around here either.

Assholes? You mean assholes like you who think they alone can decide who is allowed to use the word redneck? Cry me a river...

Sorry I just don't think some noob is qualified to tell us this place is full of rednecks and "krackkkers" whatever that's supposed to mean.

Oh, I'm sorry Mr. CKA Super Elite! So,let me get this straight, only the elite may decide who can use those words? Forgive me, I didn't know this was a dictatorship. My bad.

BTW - I didn't write that this site was 'full of rednecks and "krackkkers"'. I wrote that this site has more of its fair share. Don't worry, I know that hysterical little girls tend to twist other people's words when they're upset.

Now, if you're quite done hijacking this thread...


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PostPosted: Wed May 28, 2008 9:36 am
 


Good decision.


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PostPosted: Wed May 28, 2008 11:10 am
 


RUEZ RUEZ:
C.M. Burns C.M. Burns:
I know this site has more than its fair share of rednecks and Kanadian Krakkkers...

So you have just over 360 posts and you think you are qualified to make that generalization?


What does post count have to do with the ability to read and comprehend? Nothing. He's right on the money.


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PostPosted: Wed May 28, 2008 11:22 am
 


Wow, alot of cocky arrogant assholes here too today, along with the "rednecks"...oops I'm sorry that I see heroin abuse as a bad thing.

The only positive thing, as Blue nose pointed out, is that needles don't wind up in parks or anywhere else where kids can get them. That's it.

But whatever, if the government think it should help support this type of substance abuse, might as well be fair to alcoholism, obesity, and everything else that's considered an addiction now, I'm sure we could find some studies that controlled alcohol abuse will prevent domestic violence and alcohol poisoning too if they're getting watched like hawks.


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PostPosted: Wed May 28, 2008 11:40 am
 


commanderkai commanderkai:
The only positive thing, as Blue nose pointed out, is that needles don't wind up in parks or anywhere else where kids can get them. That's it.
No that's not it at all.


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PostPosted: Wed May 28, 2008 11:45 am
 


Blue_Nose Blue_Nose:
commanderkai commanderkai:
The only positive thing, as Blue nose pointed out, is that needles don't wind up in parks or anywhere else where kids can get them. That's it.
No that's not it at all.


Let me rephrase, its the only thing that I see that actually makes me support it, except maybe the choice of detoxification... The other points that it states don't exactly state a ringing bell for the rest of the community. The car thefts statement can't really be connected to the use of this site.


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PostPosted: Wed May 28, 2008 11:56 am
 


Ah, I forgot all about the "ringing bell for the rest of the community" standard for determining who should have access to health facilities.


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PostPosted: Wed May 28, 2008 12:13 pm
 


Yes, we can't forget the "I've got mine" crowd and the "Not in my backyard" types, equally as selfish as a heroin habit. It's too bad it's not as easy as setting up a clinic to cure them of their poor mindset.


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PostPosted: Wed May 28, 2008 12:13 pm
 


We're still skirting the fact that a province is determining regional criminal codes.
Is Alberta going to choose not to follow the firearms reglations?
Is Quebec now allowed to revise english laws or discriminate against immigrants?
Will maritimers give up and put everyome on federal assistance?

It's simply not the place of the provinces to make this decision.


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PostPosted: Wed May 28, 2008 12:23 pm
 


Blue_Nose Blue_Nose:
Ah, I forgot all about the "ringing bell for the rest of the community" standard for determining who should have access to health facilities.


We could just arrest anybody who goes in there and toss them in jail...they are still committing crimes, no?

I mean, let's look at that list.

"Insite is leading to increased uptake into detoxification programs and addiction treatment. (New England Journal of Medicine)"

A few more people are trying to get clean, excellent. Always a good thing.

"Insite has not led to an increase in drug-related crime, rates of arrest for drug trafficking, assaults and robbery were similar after the facility’s opening, and rates of vehicle break-ins/theft declined significantly. (Substance Abuse Treatment, Prevention, and Policy)"

So outside for car theft, which can be completely unrelated, it has had no effect on public safety? That's a positive endorsement?

"Insite has reduced the number of people injecting in public and the amount of injection-related litter in the downtown eastside. (Canadian Medical Association Journal)"

So is this why you use this one to help support your argument? Because it elicits the sympathies of the average poster. I'll admit, that most people don't. That I honestly don't care if a heroin addict dies from an overdose. Heartless sure, but I'm alot more sympathetic to a child getting HIV because some heroin addict left a needle in a playground.

Of course, I'm sure I will get flak for that, but as much as alot of you might get some "holier than thou" attitude, its the truth, and I'm sure alot more people will care about the wellbeing of a 2 year old than a heroin addict.

"Insite has reduced overall rates of needle sharing in the community, and among those who used the supervised injection site for some, most or all of their injections, 70% were less likely to report syringe sharing."

To be honest, that should be 100% since its FREE. But whatever, its nice knowing that they're able to slowly kill themselves from heroin addiction instead of AIDS or a much faster death of ODing.

"Insite is attracting the highest-risk users – those more likely to be vulnerable to HIV infection and overdose, and who were contributing to problems of public drug use and unsafe syringe disposal."

Which is nice and all, but are those highest risk users still committing crimes to support the purchasing of heroin? I'll bet you....yes, since it seems that crime rates haven't changed, except for car theft, which has no real link between the two.

"Nearly one-third of Insite users received information relating to safer injecting practices. Those who received help injecting from fellow injection drug users on the streets were more than twice as likely to have received safer injecting education at Insite."

We're TEACHING them how to inject? The hell? If they're there...why not 100%? I mean, they're using our needles and our facility...can't they just be forced to listen to a recording or have some pamphlet to read how to safely inject?

"Insite is not increasing rates of relapse among former drug users, nor is it a negative influence on those seeking to stop drug use."

That is not a ringing endorsement either. At all. Actually its saying that it's doing NOTHING.

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So looking at all the facts. I see the only positive event for the taxpayers in this country and in that city is that....they're less needles along the street, and are more people going into detox. That's it. The average Canadian has little sympathy for heroin addicts. So we're paying what a private charity could do instead.

I'm sure a good number of you will call me evil or hateful or something else. Oooh a redneck or a Canakkkian or whoever Burns stated it as, guess what? You're wrong. I'm not hateful, I just don't care about the welfare of those who are committing a crime and causing damage to the community, just as much as I wouldn't have sympathy for a pedophile or a gangster. The facts are, according to that, is that less children are finding needles, and to me, that's its biggest factor for it.

Oh and RomanP, don't be a hypocrite, you did the same thing with uranium mines.


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PostPosted: Wed May 28, 2008 12:32 pm
 


Erased to correct an error made while learning to use the forum.


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