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Posted: Thu Jan 04, 2018 2:43 pm
His reaction. If what Wolff wrote is total horseshit then he wouldn’t be worried. But if Trump really ends up in court, then he’ll have to prove that what’s in the book isn’t true and thus, open himself up to motions of discovery which would do him absolutely no favors as lawyers dissect his private life in a court of law.
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Coach85
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Posted: Thu Jan 04, 2018 2:46 pm
N_Fiddledog N_Fiddledog: xerxes xerxes: Both. But morso the attempt to quash the book IMO. You mean the one where Trump's lawyers "accuse Wolff of making numerous false and/or baseless statements?" That somehow shows the known Liar, Michael Wolff, to be telling the truth this time, does it? How so? Who says he's a liar, Trump? The biggest liar in America, that being Trump, has no business calling anyone a liar.
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Posted: Thu Jan 04, 2018 5:06 pm
Coach85 Coach85: N_Fiddledog N_Fiddledog: xerxes xerxes: Both. But morso the attempt to quash the book IMO. You mean the one where Trump's lawyers "accuse Wolff of making numerous false and/or baseless statements?" That somehow shows the known Liar, Michael Wolff, to be telling the truth this time, does it? How so? Who says he's a liar, Trump? The Washington Post and BizBacReview did. I just clarified. $1: Post reporter Paul Fahri described him as a “provocateur and media polemicist, Wolff has a penchant for stirring up an argument and pushing the facts as far as they’ll go, and sometimes further than they can tolerate, according to his critics.
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Posted: Thu Jan 04, 2018 5:08 pm
PluggyRug PluggyRug: 8) Well, Steve Bannon is pretty odious and only the freaky marginal fringe of America "support" Bannon but, warts aside, he's sane. Trump is not. Trump is a madman.
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Posted: Thu Jan 04, 2018 5:17 pm
I used to know a woman who was a nurse at a nuthouse. She told me one of the complaints she used to hear from the residents the most was that the staff was nuts.
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Posted: Thu Jan 04, 2018 5:20 pm
Jabberwalker Jabberwalker: Trump is a madman. Based on what criteria? Because you said so, Dr. Freud? Or is he a madman because he's gone to war against the leftist agenda and he's tearing it down brick-by-brick? Because anyone who doesn't embrace leftism MUST be insane, right? Gee, where have we heard that before? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political ... viet_Union
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Posted: Thu Jan 04, 2018 5:24 pm
N_Fiddledog N_Fiddledog: I used to know a woman who was a nurse at a nuthouse. She told me one of the complaints she used to hear from the residents the most was that the staff was nuts. One of the things I have learned over the years is that no matter how outlandish a proposal may be and regardless of who proposes it that each such proposal must be weighed upon its own merits. This is why even though I may loathe some people on this site that I will on occasion agree with them, support them, and even + them when it's deserved. Just because I don't like the source does not automatically invalidate their information or even their opinions. See, sometimes a person isn't crazy for saying something, instead it's the knowledge of a terrible truth that makes them crazy. It costs us nothing to listen. And if the person is wrong then so be it. But what if they're right and everyone else is wrong? 
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Posted: Thu Jan 04, 2018 7:45 pm
BartSimpson BartSimpson: Jabberwalker Jabberwalker: Trump is a madman. Based on what criteria? Because you said so, Dr. Freud? Or is he a madman because he's gone to war against the leftist agenda and he's tearing it down brick-by-brick? Because anyone who doesn't embrace leftism MUST be insane, right? Gee, where have we heard that before? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political ... viet_UnionThat you seem to miss it speaks volumes about YOUR sanity. The American people have accidentally allowed a fascist demagogue to gain power in the United States and the populace allows it to happen and is found wanting. It is now crystal clear how Mussolini and that other guy gained power in otherwise civilized lands. Weaklings and sycophants allowed it to happen ... encouraged it to happen.
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Posted: Thu Jan 04, 2018 8:49 pm
On the other hand... His critics can’t admit it, but Trump’s crazy tactics are succeeding$1: Among the many new political maladies of our age, one has been left largely undiagnosed. This is Trump Derangement Syndrome, a condition whereby intense dislike of the 45th president renders sufferers unable to understand what he is trying to do or allow that he is capable of success. Trump is hard to admire, it’s true, and seems to revel in his ability to appal. But therein lies the secret of his power: with a few tweets, he can set the world’s news agenda and drive his critics to distraction.
Take this week, when he tweeted that his nuclear arsenal is larger than that of Kim Jong-un. His comments were seized upon as yet another example of his idiocy and his playground logic. But the point he was making has been the motivating principle behind American strategy for decades: to have more military muscle than any adversaries.
Trump is more explicit about this strategy, to the point of being childishly antagonistic. But his crazier-than-thou approach — aimed not just at Pyongyang but at Beijing, too — is bearing fruit. On Twitter and during his Asian tour last year, Trump has pressed the Chinese to take the North Korean threat more seriously. They already are. Sanctions have been made harsher, with Chinese support, and Kim Jong-un has now given word that he wants to open talks with South Korea. Beijing appears to be coming round to Trump’s analysis, having lost patience with North Korea, its only treaty ally. China has restricted its banks from offering services to North Korean clients. Trump is changing the game in this area, something his predecessors utterly failed to do.
Trump’s diplomacy is brash, to put it mildly. Yet he delivers his message in a way that cuts through to millions of people at home and abroad. He became president thanks to his uncanny ability to amplify his point. He finds arresting, often shocking, ways of making sensible points.
To associate the word ‘sensible’ with anything Trump says might seem like a modern heresy. But most Americans agree with him on the use of torture on terrorists, the turpitude of the media, and the need to stop immigration from the most unstable countries. One might deplore him, but it’s an error to consider his ideas extremist or out of touch.
Trump’s opponents should have learnt by now, but the derangement syndrome stops them seeing sense. When Hillary Clinton referred to his supporters as a ‘basket of deplorables’, she walked straight into his trap. She was so disgusted by Trump that she insulted not just him but a vast swath of the US electorate who were inclined to support him. She was duly punished at the ballot. In 2017, the Democrats may have won three state-wide elections, but they show little sign of having understood the Trump phenomenon. They still treat Trump with the contempt on which he thrives.
As America prepares for its midterm elections in November, the media consensus is that the Republicans are bound to pay the price for Trump’s antics. But voters tend to judge politicians on their record and they will see, alongside a dismal failure to repeal Barack Obama’s healthcare act, a Republican president delivering robust economic growth and the largest tax-cut package for a generation, which has just passed through Congress and includes a corporation tax cut from 35 per cent to 21 per cent.
Abroad, too, Trump can claim success and many Americans will look past the media and believe him. America helped crush Isis, even if the President takes more credit for that than he should. A world that has regained its fear of American might is arguably a little safer as a result. In the Korean peninsula, where old forms of international coercion failed, there are signs of progress. Unpalatable though it may be, Trump’s Twitter diplomacy appears to be working. https://www.spectator.co.uk/2018/01/his ... ucceeding/
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Posted: Thu Jan 04, 2018 8:58 pm
N_Fiddledog N_Fiddledog: I used to know a woman who was a nurse at a nuthouse. She told me one of the complaints she used to hear from the residents the most was that the staff was nuts. Then she said “stop complaining and take your meds.”
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Posted: Fri Jan 05, 2018 12:03 am
N_Fiddledog N_Fiddledog: On the other hand... His critics can’t admit it, but Trump’s crazy tactics are succeeding$1: Among the many new political maladies of our age, one has been left largely undiagnosed. This is Trump Derangement Syndrome, a condition whereby intense dislike of the 45th president renders sufferers unable to understand what he is trying to do or allow that he is capable of success. Trump is hard to admire, it’s true, and seems to revel in his ability to appal. But therein lies the secret of his power: with a few tweets, he can set the world’s news agenda and drive his critics to distraction.
Take this week, when he tweeted that his nuclear arsenal is larger than that of Kim Jong-un. His comments were seized upon as yet another example of his idiocy and his playground logic. But the point he was making has been the motivating principle behind American strategy for decades: to have more military muscle than any adversaries.
Trump is more explicit about this strategy, to the point of being childishly antagonistic. But his crazier-than-thou approach — aimed not just at Pyongyang but at Beijing, too — is bearing fruit. On Twitter and during his Asian tour last year, Trump has pressed the Chinese to take the North Korean threat more seriously. They already are. Sanctions have been made harsher, with Chinese support, and Kim Jong-un has now given word that he wants to open talks with South Korea. Beijing appears to be coming round to Trump’s analysis, having lost patience with North Korea, its only treaty ally. China has restricted its banks from offering services to North Korean clients. Trump is changing the game in this area, something his predecessors utterly failed to do.
Trump’s diplomacy is brash, to put it mildly. Yet he delivers his message in a way that cuts through to millions of people at home and abroad. He became president thanks to his uncanny ability to amplify his point. He finds arresting, often shocking, ways of making sensible points.
To associate the word ‘sensible’ with anything Trump says might seem like a modern heresy. But most Americans agree with him on the use of torture on terrorists, the turpitude of the media, and the need to stop immigration from the most unstable countries. One might deplore him, but it’s an error to consider his ideas extremist or out of touch.
Trump’s opponents should have learnt by now, but the derangement syndrome stops them seeing sense. When Hillary Clinton referred to his supporters as a ‘basket of deplorables’, she walked straight into his trap. She was so disgusted by Trump that she insulted not just him but a vast swath of the US electorate who were inclined to support him. She was duly punished at the ballot. In 2017, the Democrats may have won three state-wide elections, but they show little sign of having understood the Trump phenomenon. They still treat Trump with the contempt on which he thrives.
As America prepares for its midterm elections in November, the media consensus is that the Republicans are bound to pay the price for Trump’s antics. But voters tend to judge politicians on their record and they will see, alongside a dismal failure to repeal Barack Obama’s healthcare act, a Republican president delivering robust economic growth and the largest tax-cut package for a generation, which has just passed through Congress and includes a corporation tax cut from 35 per cent to 21 per cent.
Abroad, too, Trump can claim success and many Americans will look past the media and believe him. America helped crush Isis, even if the President takes more credit for that than he should. A world that has regained its fear of American might is arguably a little safer as a result. In the Korean peninsula, where old forms of international coercion failed, there are signs of progress. Unpalatable though it may be, Trump’s Twitter diplomacy appears to be working. https://www.spectator.co.uk/2018/01/his ... ucceeding/You really think that the North Korean file has been successful? Botched completely, more like...
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Posted: Fri Jan 05, 2018 12:50 am
Jabberwalker Jabberwalker: You really think that the North Korean file has been successful? Botched completely, more like... Dragged the whole region, and maybe the world, closer to war and only a maniac would consider more war to be a policy success. Failed completely too in one other aspect in that the Norks are scared in the slightest. Push it even further and enjoy the South Korean, Chinese, and Japanese response of their territory receiving the radioactive fallout from targets destroyed inside North Korea by American nukes. If the Norks have all their stuff deeply buried then that means it won't be airbursts that take them out, it'll have to be ground impacts that kick out nothing but fallout afterwards from the initial explosion and the following fires from burning cities. I'd like to think there's at least one adult in the White House that considers these minor details. Maybe Mattis and Kelly but that would be about all. Trump wasn't voted in to think things out anyway. He's there to represent the incoherent rage-screaming of the demented collective American id of the brats that are way beyond the point of being reasoned with.
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Posted: Fri Jan 05, 2018 1:05 pm
It's all Clinton all the time on Fox News today. DIVERT DIVERT!!!!
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