[BartSimpson]

Thanos Thanos:

Good example of what a pack of mean-spirited little gutter fascists Quebec sovereignists really are. Did anyone really think that they'd be satisfied with merely chasing 60% of the original Anglo population out of Quebec and that everyone else would be safe from their endless drive towards an ethnicity-based tyranny? They've always been vicious totalitarian pricks and they always will be.

Ethnic cleansing is always okay so long as it's done against the 'right' people.

[Zipperfish]

[quote="GreenTiger]While I agree with the position of keeping Quebec secular I agree when it comes to individual people but there is no need to insult individuals. There is a difference between opposing a religious movement and insulting somebody in the street. [/quote]

Not a very big difference, I'm afraid.

[BartSimpson]

xerxes xerxes:

Just because the state is secular doesn't give it the right to force people to deny their religious beliefs for their job.

Yet precisely that opinion has been stated innumerable times by Canadians on this very site.

[Zipperfish]

It really doesn't have much to do with beliefs. People can believe whatever they want. It's more to do with the funny hats. I just get a kick out of people getting all upset about funny hats in this day and age.

[DrCaleb]

Zipperfish Zipperfish:

It really doesn't have much to do with beliefs. People can believe whatever they want. It's more to do with the funny hats. I just get a kick out of people getting all upset about funny hats in this day and age.

Bless his Noodly Appendage.

[N_Fiddledog]

Hang on a sec here. This is what this is all about...

$1:

A Muslim woman says she and her family were verbally assaulted, her son was spit on and they were told to "change your religion” while on a recent trip at a Quebec City shopping centre.

Badia Senouci and her family are blaming the incident on the current controversy over the province's proposed charter of values.

Senouci was shopping two weeks ago in Ste-Foy with her son and husband when an older woman approached them and began insulting their religion.

So basically we have the CBC going, "Muslim claims victim status. Film at 11" again.

I don't like the head covering laws in Quebec for my own reasons, but I'm not sure why this particular story is even about that. The only thing we know for sure is an older woman was knocked down by a woman, her son and husband. The police were called.

Why didn't you interview the old woman, cracker-jack CBC journalists?

Apparently there's security footage to this, and after the police saw it they released the three. Very well, let's see the video that shows why the 3 that knocked down the old woman are the victims here.

And why exactly is this news, anyway? If you need to try so hard to make a tenuous connection to a policy you don't like, do you even have a story CBC?

[BartSimpson]

Zipperfish Zipperfish:

It really doesn't have much to do with beliefs. People can believe whatever they want. It's more to do with the funny hats. I just get a kick out of people getting all upset about funny hats in this day and age.

Me, too.

[PublicAnimalNo9]

BartSimpson BartSimpson:

Zipperfish Zipperfish:

It really doesn't have much to do with beliefs. People can believe whatever they want. It's more to do with the funny hats. I just get a kick out of people getting all upset about funny hats in this day and age.

Me, too.

Everyday is Hallowe'en in Alabama

[ShepherdsDog]

Opus Dei....the Katholic Klan

[desertdude]

Even I didn't think you were that stupid dog. Maybe if you search hard enough you'll find a video on YouTube that explains it.

[BartSimpson]

desertdude desertdude:

Even I didn't think you were that stupid dog. Maybe if you search hard enough you'll find a video on YouTube that explains it.

What's with you and the personal attacks lately?

[N_Fiddledog]

BartSimpson BartSimpson:

desertdude desertdude:

Even I didn't think you were that stupid dog. Maybe if you search hard enough you'll find a video on YouTube that explains it.

What's with you and the personal attacks lately?

He's a victim you see. It's self defense. Like the three who knocked the old lady down in the department store. They were victims, because the old lady said something they didn't like. She's just lucky they didn't put the boots to her.

[PublicAnimalNo9]

pineywoodslim pineywoodslim:

GreenTiger GreenTiger:

Good point guys. I agree with the idea of the government attempting to keep their society secular meaning separation of church and state, but in this case with this demonstration this has descended into a bullying session.

This is the getting to be the very kind of thing that you are trying to avoid.

Separation of church and state is not the same as enforcing a secular society.

Society is not wholly composed of the state. There are many other actors that make up society as a whole.

While I agree in the total separation of church and state, I disagree that the state has any business enforcing secularism on society as a whole.

What religious people want to publicly wear or display in terms of religious expression should be up to them, not the state.

Let the government enforce secularism on itself, fine, but not the general public.

Well in regards to their "secular" constitution or whatever the hell it is, they are enforcing it upon themselves. Govt employees will be prohibited from wearing certain religious accoutrements including big, gaudy crosses and crucifixes which I don't have a problem with. I also don't have a problem with expecting govt employess to have their faces uncovered. However, banning turbans and headscarves is just being asshatted for the sake of being an asshat.

[PublicAnimalNo9]

N_Fiddledog N_Fiddledog:

Hang on a sec here. This is what this is all about...

$1:

A Muslim woman says she and her family were verbally assaulted, her son was spit on and they were told to "change your religion” while on a recent trip at a Quebec City shopping centre.

Badia Senouci and her family are blaming the incident on the current controversy over the province's proposed charter of values.

Senouci was shopping two weeks ago in Ste-Foy with her son and husband when an older woman approached them and began insulting their religion.

So basically we have the CBC going, "Muslim claims victim status. Film at 11" again.

I don't like the head covering laws in Quebec for my own reasons, but I'm not sure why this particular story is even about that. The only thing we know for sure is an older woman was knocked down by a woman, her son and husband. The police were called.

Why didn't you interview the old woman, cracker-jack CBC journalists?

Apparently there's security footage to this, and after the police saw it they released the three. Very well, let's see the video that shows why the 3 that knocked down the old woman are the victims here.

And why exactly is this news, anyway? If you need to try so hard to make a tenuous connection to a policy you don't like, do you even have a story CBC?

To be fair, spitting on someone in Canada is assault, IIRC. If they had simply been told to "change their religion", well they'd have to suck it up like everyone else. But spitting on someone is a disgusting, vulgar act. If you're not going to charge the spitter, you can't really charge the shover. This isn't the NHL.
Personally, if anyone ever spit on my son, I wouldn't care how old they were or what gender they were, they'd be getting dusted off with more than just a shove to the ground.

[ShepherdsDog]

I'm very egalitarian.....both sexes would get an open hand to the face for that